All Blacks vs England I
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I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:
England won't be in fear of this team. And the 'nice boy' jersey
But its likely the best and safest option to start the first test. And if everyone clicks and plays at their best, esp TJ and Damian, they could have a VG start. However ...
@Winger said in All Blacks vs England I:
England won't be in fear of this team. And the 'nice boy' jersey
That jersey is a psychological masterstroke for England.
It has an Eton collar - so if things are going badly for us, we only need say in lordly tones, "I say old chap, how dare you tackle me. Naff off" - and the English will lie down before us.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.
It is coming
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.
Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?
Organises the counter attack well, puts people in space. Can be used as a second play maker. He has something deceptive with his centre of balance that allows him to get through tackles that he shouldn't.. for a small guy he makes a lot of line breaks like that
However we haven't seen much of that this year because of injuries and his form hasn't been the best
@Duluth said in All Blacks vs England I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.
Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?
Organises the counter attack well, puts people in space. Can be used as a second play maker. He has something deceptive with his centre of balance that allows him to get through tackles that he shouldn't.. for a small guy he makes a lot of line breaks like that
However we haven't seen much of that this year because of injuries and his form hasn't been the best
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
Fairly predictable team given the squad and limited preparation time.
Looking forward to seeing the evolution of our play.
agreed, if what @Duluth says is true it could be a nice change, maybe more of a structured counter actually working to connect with options rather than the "up the guts" approach
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Yeah bring back Frizell and his amazing disciplinary record... or the captain's amazing disciplinary record....
Oh wait....
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Yeah bring back Frizell and his amazing disciplinary record... or the captain's amazing disciplinary record....
Oh wait....
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Yeah bring back Frizell and his amazing disciplinary record... or the captain's amazing disciplinary record....
Oh wait....
Ok then 2 red cards
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Finau does like to fold backs in half, and there is always risk associated with that if he gets it slightly wrong. And in the modern game, with fans always baying for cards, particularly if it's big man vs little man, it's going to end in yellow or red sooner rather than later. Cards have been a huge issue for the ABs recently so I am hoping this current coaching group can get that part right across the board, not just with Finau.
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Oh, and I am really looking forward to seeing what Pat T can do. His form this year was outstanding, if he can translate any of that to the test arena he and SB could form a potent combo for us.
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Oh, and I am really looking forward to seeing what Pat T can do. His form this year was outstanding, if he can translate any of that to the test arena he and SB could form a potent combo for us.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:
Oh, and I am really looking forward to seeing what Pat T can do. His form this year was outstanding, if he can translate any of that to the test arena he and SB could form a potent combo for us.
i really hope so, he's had a few chances before thought so im not holding my breath
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.
It is coming
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.
It is coming
Our current captain is a red card coming always so no point making it a bigger issue than it is. (Edit: Missed @KiwiMurph already getting this dig in.) At least we got some practice playing with 14 last year.
What's the powerball up to in NZ this week? Don't waste your money if Perofeta has a ticket.
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@mencey said in All Blacks vs England I:
When the fuck is Jordan and Roigard coming back?
Anyone know? Thx
Wouldn't bank on seeing Roigard again this year. Supposedly a six month injury from April, and at that point you have no idea how he recovers, so probably better to just let him get it properly right, easing him back in with Super Rugby.
Jordan meant to be Rugby Championship.
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I love we are talking about Finau's mythical red card risk compared to, say, the very real red card risk of the fucking captain? Fucking cantabs circling the wagons, and whiny 'canes fans.
Though, after Jacobson got car5ded because he tackled with force, maybe you whiny bitches are right, and rugby really is a game for faeries now.
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@mencey said in All Blacks vs England I:
When the fuck is Jordan and Roigard coming back?
Anyone know? Thx
Wouldn't bank on seeing Roigard again this year. Supposedly a six month injury from April, and at that point you have no idea how he recovers, so probably better to just let him get it properly right, easing him back in with Super Rugby.
Jordan meant to be Rugby Championship.
@frugby said in All Blacks vs England I:
@mencey said in All Blacks vs England I:
When the fuck is Jordan and Roigard coming back?
Anyone know? Thx
Wouldn't bank on seeing Roigard again this year. Supposedly a six month injury from April, and at that point you have no idea how he recovers, so probably better to just let him get it properly right, easing him back in with Super Rugby.
Jordan meant to be Rugby Championship.
thx. Love them 2
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@mariner4life Finau is from the old school where forwards would put the fear of life into backs. I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk. And yes SB is a risk in that regard as well. We have to play smarter rugby and avoid having players sent off, it has cost us dearly in recent times. We would have won the RWC final easily if we'd managed to keep Cane and Frizzell on the park the full 80.
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@mariner4life Finau is from the old school where forwards would put the fear of life into backs. I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk. And yes SB is a risk in that regard as well. We have to play smarter rugby and avoid having players sent off, it has cost us dearly in recent times. We would have won the RWC final easily if we'd managed to keep Cane and Frizzell on the park the full 80.
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:
@mariner4life Finau is from the old school where forwards would put the fear of life into backs. I love it, but in the modern game, it's a risk. And yes SB is a risk in that regard as well. We have to play smarter rugby and avoid having players sent off, it has cost us dearly in recent times. We would have won the RWC final easily if we'd managed to keep Cane and Frizzell on the park the full 80.
Well said. 2 right
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.
Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.
Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.
It is coming
Our current captain is a red card coming always so no point making it a bigger issue than it is. (Edit: Missed @KiwiMurph already getting this dig in.) At least we got some practice playing with 14 last year.
What's the powerball up to in NZ this week? Don't waste your money if Perofeta has a ticket.
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs England I:
What's the powerball up to in NZ this week? Don't waste your money if Perofeta has a ticket.
I liked the team better when I read it from numbers 1 to 15 than my initial reading of 15 to 1.
I was very surprised Beaden wasn't starting at 15.
Beaudy to 10 and DMac to 15 if things are going poorly?
