All Blacks vs England I
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
Oh sure just pretend Frizzel doesn't exist
And Coles...
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
Oh sure just pretend Frizzel doesn't exist
And Coles...
Who?
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
Oh sure just pretend Frizzel doesn't exist
And Coles...
Who?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs England I:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs England I:
No Aaron Smith, Mo’unga, Retallick, Whitelock, Sam Cane, that’s about 540 test matches of experience goneski. We got this Razor…
Oh sure just pretend Frizzel doesn't exist
And Coles...
Who?
Frizzel-like a suitcase but a little bit more violent.
Coles-like a supermarket but a little bit more dirty. -
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England I:
Genuinely looking forward to this one. This game is right up there at an interest level comparable to the 2023 WC.
Razor and co have nowhere to hide, this is it.
If we lose, this place will erupt into flame, currently smouldering at the moment. So many cross winds.
Huge.A loss in the 1st Test would be an embarrassment after all the hype, that's for sure. Personally wouldn't read too much into it, but the memes posted will be something to see...
Yes, you are right it would be.
Especially under the roof in Dunners. Which should give ideal conditions for us.
#bringbackFoz
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Yes, you are right it would be.
Especially under the roof in Dunners. Which should give ideal conditions for us.
#bringbackFoz
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs England I:
Yes, you are right it would be.
Especially under the roof in Dunners. Which should give ideal conditions for us.
#bringbackFoz
If we're gonna lose it's probbly going to be the 1st Test. Personally, I think the RC & EOYT are more important.
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Going to be interesting, thought the poms looked ok v Japan ,
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs England I:
Yes, you are right it would be.
Especially under the roof in Dunners. Which should give ideal conditions for us.
#bringbackFoz
If we're gonna lose it's probbly going to be the 1st Test. Personally, I think the RC & EOYT are more important.
Yes, the 1st test is when we will be vulnerable. We have really made it hard for ourselves given the short turnaround between the super final and the 1st test.
Not making excuses for Razor, this is the type of challenge he should thrive on.
This series is more important than the eoyt imo. We only have to see what the fallout was like after losing to Ireland in NZ to get a sense of what it will be like. We don’t need a developing crisis for a new mgmt team 2 tests into their reign
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England I:
So as the dust settles on the first ABs squad of the year, who is in the 23 to play the first test against England. I think Razor will select the following:
- De Groot
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett (C)
- Tuipolotu
- Finau
- Papali'i
- Savea (VC)
- Christie
- McKenzie
- Clarke
- Barrett (VC)
- Ioane
- Reece
- Barrett
- Aumua
- Williams/Tu'ungafasi
- Newell
- Vaa'i
- Blackadder
- Ratima
- Perofeta (yuck)
- ALB
Pending injury in camp, I'd say you're on the money.
It will be interesting to see what differences they attempt to instil from the Fozzie era.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
It will be interesting to see what differences they attempt to instil from the Fozzie era.
Desire hopefully.
There were times under Foster when they didn't seem to care that much. Then when it counted at the RWC they showed up mentally. I'm hoping Razor can get that passion out of them for every match like he seemed to with the 'saders for 7 years in a row.
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We (NZ) do seem to have an aversion to warm up games don't we? The Black Caps think they are not needed, despite their performances, and I've noticed the days of the ABs playing the Island nations to start the season seem to be over as well. Why would we do that to ourselves?
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We (NZ) do seem to have an aversion to warm up games don't we? The Black Caps think they are not needed, despite their performances, and I've noticed the days of the ABs playing the Island nations to start the season seem to be over as well. Why would we do that to ourselves?
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:
We (NZ) do seem to have an aversion to warm up games don't we? The Black Caps think they are not needed, despite their performances, and I've noticed the days of the ABs playing the Island nations to start the season seem to be over as well. Why would we do that to ourselves?
Totally agree
An AB vs AB IX would be fun to watch and serve as a warmup.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:
We (NZ) do seem to have an aversion to warm up games don't we? The Black Caps think they are not needed, despite their performances, and I've noticed the days of the ABs playing the Island nations to start the season seem to be over as well. Why would we do that to ourselves?
Totally agree
An AB vs AB IX would be fun to watch and serve as a warmup.
@Darren said in All Blacks vs England I:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:
We (NZ) do seem to have an aversion to warm up games don't we? The Black Caps think they are not needed, despite their performances, and I've noticed the days of the ABs playing the Island nations to start the season seem to be over as well. Why would we do that to ourselves?
Totally agree
An AB vs AB IX would be fun to watch and serve as a warmup.
They might be worried about injuries? But I'd also like to see one...
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs England I:
So as the dust settles on the first ABs squad of the year, who is in the 23 to play the first test against England. I think Razor will select the following:
- De Groot
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett (C)
- Tuipolotu
- Finau
- Papali'i
- Savea (VC)
- Christie
- McKenzie
- Clarke
- Barrett (VC)
- Ioane
- Reece
- Barrett
- Aumua
- Williams/Tu'ungafasi
- Newell
- Vaa'i
- Blackadder
- Ratima
- Perofeta (yuck)
- ALB
Pending injury in camp, I'd say you're on the money.
It will be interesting to see what differences they attempt to instil from the Fozzie era.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:
It will be interesting to see what differences they attempt to instil from the Fozzie era.
Quite a few according to Leon.
Seems quite challenging to transition to a new defensive system. You only need a bit of confusion in what someone is supposed to be doing and the whole thing falls apart.
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I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.
Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen
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I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.
Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:
I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.
Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen
yeah, less of the do something risky if we dont score after 3-4 phase...have some faith we can keep the ball for long periods
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I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.
Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:
Show some actual depth of clearance
DMac has more distance in his kicks than Mo'unga and BB. They could use JB more for their exits.
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:
Show some actual depth of clearance
DMac has more distance in his kicks than Mo'unga and BB. They could use JB more for their exits.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:
Show some actual depth of clearance
DMac has more distance in his kicks than Mo'unga and BB. They could use JB more for their exits.
yeah, i thought when JB first came on the scene having a big boot was one of his selling points but dont think we see it as much as i would have liked/thought we would
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:
I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.
Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen
yeah, less of the do something risky if we dont score after 3-4 phase...have some faith we can keep the ball for long periods
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks vs England I:
I'd just like us to show patience with the ball in hand getting rid of all the cute 25/75 passes and 20/80 chip kicks. Show some actual depth of clearance on our exits and improved disclipline on defence.
Though with BB being an intergal part of the team I'm not sure if point 1 or 2 can happen
yeah, less of the do something risky if we dont score after 3-4 phase...have some faith we can keep the ball for long periods
Kick deeper, get away from our end and play down there
