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Leon MacDonald Quits

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  • FrankF Frank

    Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

    Would really like to know what exactly the different views were or was it more Razor saw our attack sucked and took action.

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    Victor Meldrew
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    @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

    David Havili says: "Hi"

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

      Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

      David Havili says: "Hi"

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      Billy Tell
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      #134

      @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

      @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

      Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

      David Havili says: "Hi"

      No he doesn’t. He says “Kia ora”.

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        darylmitchell
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        https://www.msn.com/en-nz/sports/rugby_league/worth-a-phone-call-wallabies-urged-to-swoop-after-all-blacks-coaching-bust-up/ar-AA1peMfo?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=869ae34f4fe54c9ea7afa0473677b3b2&ei=11

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        • MN5M MN5

          @Jet said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

          Regardless of who is in the right , I love the ruthlessness.

          This is what we have been lacking since 2015.

          If It’s not working. Something has to change.

          As I always say…

          The crest on the front is bigger than any name on the back.

          Now move Will Jordan to fullback post haste you floppy haired surf nonce.

          Just gonna tag @Bones so he comes along and prepares to be outraged

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          Bones
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          #136

          @MN5 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

          @Jet said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

          Regardless of who is in the right , I love the ruthlessness.

          This is what we have been lacking since 2015.

          If It’s not working. Something has to change.

          As I always say…

          The crest on the front is bigger than any name on the back.

          Now move Will Jordan to fullback post haste you floppy haired surf nonce.

          Just gonna tag @Bones so he comes along and prepares to be outraged

          @Machpants has it covered. When he's actually cemented himself as a wing that has vision outside himself then I'd be comfortable with him at fullback. Or against Fiji.

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

            David Havili says: "Hi"

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            Frank
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            #137

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

            David Havili says: "Hi"

            Unlike your best mate Foster who had changes forced upon him long after it was apparent from both player feedback and the fuckin results that his assistants sucked.

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            • FrankF Frank

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

              David Havili says: "Hi"

              Unlike your best mate Foster who had changes forced upon him long after it was apparent from both player feedback and the fuckin results that his assistants sucked.

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              Victor Meldrew
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              #138

              @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

              Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

              David Havili says: "Hi"

              Unlike your best mate Foster who had changes forced upon him long after it was apparent from both player feedback and the fuckin results that his assistants sucked.

              So Robertson sacked McDonald because of poor results and player feedback?

              Has that been confirmed?

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                BerniesCorner
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                #139

                Refreshingly honest with dignity. You can't ask for any more than that.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                  @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                  Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

                  David Havili says: "Hi"

                  Unlike your best mate Foster who had changes forced upon him long after it was apparent from both player feedback and the fuckin results that his assistants sucked.

                  So Robertson sacked McDonald because of poor results and player feedback?

                  Has that been confirmed?

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                  canefan
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                  #140

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                  @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                  @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                  Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

                  David Havili says: "Hi"

                  Unlike your best mate Foster who had changes forced upon him long after it was apparent from both player feedback and the fuckin results that his assistants sucked.

                  So Robertson sacked McDonald because of poor results and player feedback?

                  Has that been confirmed?

                  Nope. When asked why, Razor preferred to focus on the fact that Leon was a top bloke, and that they just didn't click. Pretty classy response

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                    nostrildamus
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                    #141

                    I wonder if the AB performance during Argie test 1 was a major reason for this.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                      @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                      Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

                      David Havili says: "Hi"

                      Unlike your best mate Foster who had changes forced upon him long after it was apparent from both player feedback and the fuckin results that his assistants sucked.

                      So Robertson sacked McDonald because of poor results and player feedback?

                      Has that been confirmed?

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                      Frank
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                      #142

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                      @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                      @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                      Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

                      David Havili says: "Hi"

                      Unlike your best mate Foster who had changes forced upon him long after it was apparent from both player feedback and the fuckin results that his assistants sucked.

                      So Robertson sacked McDonald because of poor results and player feedback?

                      Has that been confirmed?

                      What???
                      I never said that.
                      I said Razor is being proactive, whereas Foster wasn't.

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                      • FrankF Frank

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

                        David Havili says: "Hi"

                        Unlike your best mate Foster who had changes forced upon him long after it was apparent from both player feedback and the fuckin results that his assistants sucked.

                        So Robertson sacked McDonald because of poor results and player feedback?

                        Has that been confirmed?

                        What???
                        I never said that.
                        I said Razor is being proactive, whereas Foster wasn't.

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                        Victor Meldrew
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                        #143

                        @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        Great to see Razor is constantly looking to improve and isn't too stubborn.

                        David Havili says: "Hi"

                        Unlike your best mate Foster who had changes forced upon him long after it was apparent from both player feedback and the fuckin results that his assistants sucked.

                        So Robertson sacked McDonald because of poor results and player feedback?

                        Has that been confirmed?

                        What???
                        I never said that.

                        I never said you did. I simply asked if it had been confirmed that Robertson was actually or really being proactive and sacked McDonald for poor results and player feedback

                        I said Razor is being proactive, whereas Foster wasn't.

                        So has it been confirmed McDonald was sacked by Robertson? From what I've read it was a difference in approach, a mutual agreement to depart and nothing to do with poor results and player feedback - though happy to be corrected.

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                          sparky
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                          #144

                          Two things I'm curious about this.

                          1. The timing. Why didn't MacDonald stay on until the end of the SA tour or the Rugby Championship?

                          2. We've only so far heard the NZR and Scott Robinson version of events. It would interesting to hear from Leon MacDonald himself about why he quit.

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                            pakman
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                            #145

                            Bloke on Twitter reckons he saw Dave Rennie in AB coaching box?

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                              Bloke on Twitter reckons he saw Dave Rennie in AB coaching box?

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                              sparky
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                              #146

                              @pakman Do we have any better sauces than that?

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                @pakman Do we have any better sauces than that?

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                                Crazy Horse
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                                #147

                                @sparky said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                @pakman Do we have any better sauces than that?

                                A guy at the pub said the same thing.

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                                  ploughboy
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                                  #148

                                  taxi driver said same

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                                    canefan
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                                    #149

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350387822/it-just-didnt-click-scott-robertson-reveals-reason-leon-macdonald-coaching-exit

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                                    • FrankF Frank

                                      @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                      Genuinely a concern that the coaching group is falling apart after only 5 tests. They have worked together before and I would hope of known what was expected promised etc. Not sure this is what we were sold.

                                      Are my eyes deceiving me or are you questioning the coaches?

                                      Is it the status quo actually changing that makes you uncomfortable?

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                                      Dan54
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                                      #150

                                      @Frank said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                      @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                      Genuinely a concern that the coaching group is falling apart after only 5 tests. They have worked together before and I would hope of known what was expected promised etc. Not sure this is what we were sold.

                                      Are my eyes deceiving me or are you questioning the coaches?

                                      Is it the status quo actually changing that makes you uncomfortable?

                                      I questioning the fact that coaching group seems to be falling apart? Yes.
                                      I genuinely thought before you put group together you kind of make sure you have same philosophy on coaching.
                                      Seems if you read it I just actually agreeing with Razor, he f***ed up forming his team.
                                      Interesting thing is I recall reading a Jason Holland interview where he said he left Crusaders because his and Razor had piliosophical differences in coaching. It was in Rugby News in last couple if years, said they were good mates but didn't work as a group.

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                                        BerniesCorner
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                                        #151

                                        These coaches in the public eye earn every last penny IMO.
                                        Pure speculative gossip, nothing more.

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                                        • D darylmitchell

                                          Just throwing my two cents out there.

                                          I remember Razor made a relevant point in the recent documentary how he and Leon approached the game differently, he was saying how he tends to look for 'what could go right' whereas Leon tends to look for 'what could go wrong'.

                                          I think it comes down to their mindset. Razor is an optimist by nature and risk-taking individual while Leon's coaching and selections have always tended to be conservative and low-risk in nature - see his Blues tenure.

                                          Leon is conventional and coaches more by the book while Razor is the opposite of that, he's more of an unshackled unorthodox free-spirited individual Lol.... maybe Razor is right into that new age stuff?

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                                          Jet
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                                          #152

                                          @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                          Just throwing my two cents out there.

                                          I remember Razor made a relevant point in the recent documentary how he and Leon approached the game differently, he was saying how he tends to look for 'what could go right' whereas Leon tends to look for 'what could go wrong'.

                                          I think it comes down to their mindset. Razor is an optimist by nature and risk-taking individual while Leon's coaching and selections have always tended to be conservative and low-risk in nature - see his Blues tenure.

                                          Leon is conventional and coaches more by the book while Razor is the opposite of that, he's more of an unshackled unorthodox free-spirited individual Lol.... maybe Razor is right into that new age stuff?

                                          So Willy J to 15 instead of Beaudy or Perofeta.

                                          Its going to be raining fucking tries to NZ with "Air Jordan" at the back.

                                          Strap yourselves in, the positivity express is leaving the station. Choo Choooooooooo

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