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All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham

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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @sparky

    He’s a loss for us. We only have three good locks, him Itoje and Martin, any others are a real step down. Plus he offers good cover at 6, which gives us more flexibility on the bench. We’re struggling at prop too, with Borthwick seemingly reluctant to give many youngsters a go. Cole and Marler don’t have too many miles left in them.

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    @Catogrande

    Itoje didn't play for Saracens yesterday. Is he fit to play on Saturday?

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    • sparkyS sparky

      @Catogrande

      Itoje didn't play for Saracens yesterday. Is he fit to play on Saturday?

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      Mr Fish
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      @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

      @Catogrande

      Itoje didn't play for Saracens yesterday. Is he fit to play on Saturday?

      Elliot Daly (Edit: Henry Slade, not Daly!) is the only player from the squad who was released to play (because he's returning from injury).

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      • sparkyS sparky

        @mariner4life

        I'd be tempted to go Finau, Savea, Sititi and then Cane off the bench, but I'd be surprised if Robertson is that bold.

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        @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

        @mariner4life

        I'd be tempted to go Finau, Savea, Sititi and then Cane off the bench, but I'd be surprised if Robertson is that bold.

        Does Cane offer much off the bench?

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

          @mariner4life

          I'd be tempted to go Finau, Savea, Sititi and then Cane off the bench, but I'd be surprised if Robertson is that bold.

          Does Cane offer much off the bench?

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          @nostrildamus Experience.

          I like Lakai but does he offer that much off the bench?

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            @nostrildamus Experience.

            I like Lakai but does he offer that much off the bench?

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            @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

            @nostrildamus Experience.

            I like Lakai but does he offer that much off the bench?

            Faster than Cane. Cane also doesn't seem to bend /react from the waist down, as he showed again yesterday.

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              If it was me I would be starting
              Finau
              Cane
              Sititi
              And Savea off the bench.

              Funau, if he plays like yesterday, puts actual starch in our defence, and he improves our lineout. I would understand if he doesn't get picked though, he's not quick to his feet after smashing dudes, and test selectors hate that.

              Sititi and Savea are very similar, I just think young Wallace has more form.
              Cane is suited to playing up north.

              I expect we'll see Sititi, Cane and savea though.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                If it was me I would be starting
                Finau
                Cane
                Sititi
                And Savea off the bench.

                Funau, if he plays like yesterday, puts actual starch in our defence, and he improves our lineout. I would understand if he doesn't get picked though, he's not quick to his feet after smashing dudes, and test selectors hate that.

                Sititi and Savea are very similar, I just think young Wallace has more form.
                Cane is suited to playing up north.

                I expect we'll see Sititi, Cane and savea though.

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                @mariner4life
                So badly wants Finau to be good.......................

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                • F Frank

                  @mariner4life
                  So badly wants Finau to be good.......................

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                  @Frank said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                  @mariner4life
                  So badly wants Finau to be good.......................

                  In all honesty so do I

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @Catogrande

                    Itoje didn't play for Saracens yesterday. Is he fit to play on Saturday?

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                    @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                    @Catogrande

                    Itoje didn't play for Saracens yesterday. Is he fit to play on Saturday?

                    He’s fine and is in camp.

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                    • M Mr Fish

                      @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                      @Catogrande

                      Itoje didn't play for Saracens yesterday. Is he fit to play on Saturday?

                      Elliot Daly (Edit: Henry Slade, not Daly!) is the only player from the squad who was released to play (because he's returning from injury).

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                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                      @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                      @Catogrande

                      Itoje didn't play for Saracens yesterday. Is he fit to play on Saturday?

                      Elliot Daly is the only player from the squad who was released to play (because he's returning from injury).

                      Slade is playing for Exeter today to prove his fitness. In the space of 11 months he’s gone from being ditched by Borthwick for RWC to getting a central contract when he’s injured.

                      Go figure huh?

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                        So apart from Alex Mitchell being out and question marks over Chessum and Slade, England are likely to be at full strength.

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          So apart from Alex Mitchell being out and question marks over Chessum and Slade, England are likely to be at full strength.

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                          @sparky said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                          So apart from Alex Mitchell being out and question marks over Chessum and Slade, England are likely to be at full strength.

                          George Ford is also touch and go. Hasn't played for a month so probably unlikely to start against the All Blacks.

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                            @mariner4life
                            So badly wants Finau to be good.......................

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                            @Frank said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                            @mariner4life
                            So badly wants Finau to be good.......................

                            Hi Frank

                            Jog on

                            Finau is already good.

                            But hey, let's get Blackadder back on to run around heaps.

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                              I’m worried about the option taking of our 10’s when we are not making easy meters at the gain line.

                              I fear there is going to be a lot of crabbing sideways behind the advantage line and panic kicking.

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                @Frank said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                @mariner4life
                                So badly wants Finau to be good.......................

                                In all honesty so do I

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                                @booboo said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                @Frank said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                @mariner4life
                                So badly wants Finau to be good.......................

                                In all honesty so do I

                                Our only genuinely big body loose forward? Nah I hope he's shit forever. What a waste of space.

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                                  I’m worried about the option taking of our 10’s when we are not making easy meters at the gain line.

                                  I fear there is going to be a lot of crabbing sideways behind the advantage line and panic kicking.

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                                  @Jet said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                  I’m worried about the option taking of our 10’s when we are not making easy meters at the gain line.

                                  I fear there is going to be a lot of crabbing sideways behind the advantage line and panic kicking.

                                  I saw DMac during SR, and he did not play that way for the Chiefs. In fact, he played a more orthodox game. I suspect it's Razor's gameplan that isn't working, he's asking DMac to make all the play instead of trying to manage the game more

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                                    The Chiefs were pretty pragmatic for the last 2 years, DMac and Stevenson kicked a lot.

                                    So yeah, he's for sure under instructions.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @Frank said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                      @mariner4life
                                      So badly wants Finau to be good.......................

                                      Hi Frank

                                      Jog on

                                      Finau is already good.

                                      But hey, let's get Blackadder back on to run around heaps.

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                                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                      @Frank said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                      @mariner4life
                                      So badly wants Finau to be good.......................

                                      Hi Frank

                                      Jog on

                                      Finau is already good.

                                      But hey, let's get Blackadder back on to run around heaps.

                                      Point is, he's still waaaaaaay off the pace and you're all over it based off a couple of good tackles vs Japan.

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                                        During Foster era:
                                        Mo’unga didn’t play like this at the Crusaders.
                                        He must be under instructions to play like this. No, no, no this isn’t super rugby, he’s just not test standard.

                                        During Razor era:
                                        DMac didn’t play like this for the Chiefs. He must be under instructions to play like this. Yes yes.

                                        😎

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                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                          @Frank said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:

                                          @mariner4life
                                          So badly wants Finau to be good.......................

                                          Hi Frank

                                          Jog on

                                          Finau is already good.

                                          But hey, let's get Blackadder back on to run around heaps.

                                          Point is, he's still waaaaaaay off the pace and you're all over it based off a couple of good tackles vs Japan.

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