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All Blacks v France

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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    So BB and Reece showed us what we already know and Love's stocks just rose at FB. I can see the interest in Proctor but he needs work defensively.

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    foobaNZ
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    @nostrildamus Proctor needs work defensively? What?

    DMac and Roigard should be our halves pairing. That game made it clear.

    Jordan made some poor decisions too. Seemed pretty gassed.

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      That was very un all black like. We took 4 penalties in a row and turned down multiple chances to go ahead… that’s playing scared. Incredibly conservative decisions from Scott Barrett, scared decisions. You put yourself in a position to win backing your team to go ahead by scoring a try there.

      4 penalties in a row while trailing… unheard of.

      Our own worst enemy, multiple missed opportunities. Tough slog but credit to the French for getting the job done.

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        akan004
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        #875

        It was a case of not taking our opportunities in the 2nd half and our poor discipline handing them easy penalties and points. Feel the same level of disappointment as I did after Joburg, we should have beaten France.

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

          Upside: Roigard, Lakai, Aumua

          Downsides: Reece, Scott Barrett, Jordan.

          I have a sneaking suspicion you are more of a Canes fan than a Crusader one.

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          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:

          @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

          Upside: Roigard, Lakai, Aumua

          Downsides: Reece, Scott Barrett, Jordan.

          I have a sneaking suspicion you are more of a Canes fan than a Crusader one.

          I have a sneaking suspicion we have lost four games this year because of Robertson picking too many of his Red n'Black chums.

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          • F foobaNZ

            @nostrildamus Proctor needs work defensively? What?

            DMac and Roigard should be our halves pairing. That game made it clear.

            Jordan made some poor decisions too. Seemed pretty gassed.

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            KiwiMurph
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            @foobaNZ said in All Blacks v France:

            Proctor needs work defensively? What?

            Proctor was poor defensively vs Japan

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              Darth Sader
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              French were good, but we left tries out there that would have taken it away. Roigard, Ardie very good. Conversely Reece very poor, Sititi a little off his magical best, Beaudy lacked variation but was ok. On balance, pretty disappointed not to win that.

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              • sparkyS sparky

                Upside: Roigard, Lakai, Aumua

                Downsides: Reece, Scott Barrett, Jordan.

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                DMX
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                @sparky

                Rees, Jordan and Ratimer were all terrible.

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                • JetJ Jet

                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v France:

                  France were pretty good

                  They have an inordinate amount of athletic lumps knocking around.

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                  @Jet said in All Blacks v France:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v France:

                  France were pretty good

                  They have an inordinate amount of athletic lumps knocking around.

                  And Colombes

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:

                    @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                    Upside: Roigard, Lakai, Aumua

                    Downsides: Reece, Scott Barrett, Jordan.

                    I have a sneaking suspicion you are more of a Canes fan than a Crusader one.

                    I have a sneaking suspicion we have lost four games this year because of Robertson picking too many of his Red n'Black chums.

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                    nostrildamus
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                    @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:

                    @sparky said in All Blacks v France:

                    Upside: Roigard, Lakai, Aumua

                    Downsides: Reece, Scott Barrett, Jordan.

                    I have a sneaking suspicion you are more of a Canes fan than a Crusader one.

                    I have a sneaking suspicion we have lost four games this year because of Robertson picking too many of his Red n'Black chums.

                    Never said you were wrong!

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                      #882

                      France better but nz not enough patience. And too many 3 pointers should have tried to take lead.

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                        DaGrubster
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                        Disappointing to lose that after so much territory and possession.

                        One thing we need to improve on hugely is once we score points, we invariably let the other side score next so we don’t build scoreboard pressure.

                        We are still a work in progress and are really looking for the 1-2% improvement to win these types of games.

                        We are building, we are not perfect, we are good at times, but we need to get better and be more ruthless.

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                        • D DaGrubster

                          Disappointing to lose that after so much territory and possession.

                          One thing we need to improve on hugely is once we score points, we invariably let the other side score next so we don’t build scoreboard pressure.

                          We are still a work in progress and are really looking for the 1-2% improvement to win these types of games.

                          We are building, we are not perfect, we are good at times, but we need to get better and be more ruthless.

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                          mariner4life
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                          @DaGrubster it's noticeable how much better other teams are at kicking off than us. High, deep kicks that have our catchers under huge pressure, we don't seem to pay the same attention to that facet.

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                          • D DaGrubster

                            Disappointing to lose that after so much territory and possession.

                            One thing we need to improve on hugely is once we score points, we invariably let the other side score next so we don’t build scoreboard pressure.

                            We are still a work in progress and are really looking for the 1-2% improvement to win these types of games.

                            We are building, we are not perfect, we are good at times, but we need to get better and be more ruthless.

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                            sparky
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                            @DaGrubster The French team had many fewer caps than our. We were beaten by the less experienced team. I am not sure the "we're building argument" works when other sides are building more and beating us. Disappointing.

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                            • F foobaNZ

                              @nostrildamus Proctor needs work defensively? What?

                              DMac and Roigard should be our halves pairing. That game made it clear.

                              Jordan made some poor decisions too. Seemed pretty gassed.

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                              Biorealism
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                              @foobaNZ DMac seems to have really improved on this tour.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @DaGrubster it's noticeable how much better other teams are at kicking off than us. High, deep kicks that have our catchers under huge pressure, we don't seem to pay the same attention to that facet.

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                                KiwiMurph
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                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:

                                @DaGrubster it's noticeable how much better other teams are at kicking off than us. High, deep kicks that have our catchers under huge pressure, we don't seem to pay the same attention to that facet.

                                It's noticeable in Super Rugby. Very few teams bother to put pressure on when kicking off. A lot of cheap exits. We aren't trained well to deal with it

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                                  booboo
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                                  So, sliding doors (climate related @nostrildamus ). Like the England Test if we were lucky to win that, we were unlucky to lose this.

                                  (Although in both games we were playing the better rugby, until we did dumb shit.)

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                                    Learnings:

                                    • Don't sub Roigard at 51 minutes if there's no need, Robertston you cock
                                    • Don't take the three (which wasn't even a super easy kick) when you're down by 4 with 5 mins to go while dominating the set piece, Scott you dick
                                    • Don't have Scott Barrett be captain, Robertson you wang
                                    • Don't have Beauden Barrett take any kicks for touch, Robertson you penis. He just can't do it properly. They are so shit.
                                    • Don't let these random neck roll calls come from a TMO, World Rugby you shafts. They are annoying as fuck and so inconsistent it isn't funny. There was a clear neck roll on A Savea shortly before the French first try
                                    • Don't tackle with your head first into a player's knee, Samipeni you prong
                                    • Don't let Will Jordan near a rugby ball if he's on your team, unless he scores immediately thereafter, Robertson you rod
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                                      akan004
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                                      I hope the coaching team won't let Barrett off easily on that call to take the 3. Field position is paramount when there's only 5 minutes to go, and getting back into their half is not guaranteed especially with how poor our exits have been from kickoffs. I'm stunned that he decided to do that.

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                                        frugby
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                                        Big issue was taking the three at 30-26... was asking a lot to get back down the other end, a confident All Black side puts that in the corner and goes for the kill.

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                                          Billy Tell
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                                          Don’t think Reece should make the ABs again. Just not good enough at the highest level.

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