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Italy v All Blacks

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    Is Narawa still with the squad?

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    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

      I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

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      @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

      I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

      Take a bow

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        @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

        @Canes4life said in New Zealand v Italy:

        @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

        @Landers92 said in New Zealand v Italy:

        @Bovidae said in New Zealand v Italy:

        Back to their preferred loose forward trio. Reece doesn't deserve to start.

        Or be in the 23 for that matter.

        I'd play Clarke, Love, and Jordan. But I don't expect Razor to do that either. Just a lack of imagination

        He'll likely play Reece again. 🙄

        yup. I rewatched the intercept try. Reece was disgracefully slow, something is wrong with him, or he's out of gas

        Clearly fatigued - the only thing that makes sense is to go back to a specialist winger - maybe even two of them - on the bench.

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        @reprobate said in Italy v All Blacks:

        @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

        @Canes4life said in New Zealand v Italy:

        @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

        @Landers92 said in New Zealand v Italy:

        @Bovidae said in New Zealand v Italy:

        Back to their preferred loose forward trio. Reece doesn't deserve to start.

        Or be in the 23 for that matter.

        I'd play Clarke, Love, and Jordan. But I don't expect Razor to do that either. Just a lack of imagination

        He'll likely play Reece again. 🙄

        yup. I rewatched the intercept try. Reece was disgracefully slow, something is wrong with him, or he's out of gas

        Clearly fatigued - the only thing that makes sense is to go back to a specialist winger - maybe even two of them - on the bench.

        Someone like Lam can cover wing and MF, as could Proctor I reckon. If Richard Kahui could win a RWC medal doing it, surely almost all of the MF players with a little gas could fill in at wing. Could have moved Rieko out there and brought another MF on. Rassie would bloody do it

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

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          @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

          I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

          I love humour like that

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          • MN5M MN5

            @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

            I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

            I love humour like that

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            @MN5 said in Italy v All Blacks:

            @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

            I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

            I love humour like that

            I don't think they will!

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              @pakman said in New Zealand v Italy:

              I’d quite like to see:

              EDG/Aumua/Newell/Paddy T/Vaa’i/RD/Barrett (S)/Sititi/Roigard/BB/Lam/ALB/Jordan/Rieko/Perofeta

              Bench T’Mighty/Bell/Tosi/Lakai/Lord/Ratima/DMac/Love

              Barrett at 6?

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              @booboo said in Italy v All Blacks:

              @pakman said in New Zealand v Italy:

              I’d quite like to see:

              EDG/Aumua/Newell/Paddy T/Vaa’i/RD/Barrett (S)/Sititi/Roigard/BB/Lam/ALB/Jordan/Rieko/Perofeta

              Bench T’Mighty/Bell/Tosi/Lakai/Lord/Ratima/DMac/Love

              Barrett at 6?

              I see it as a chance to run three locks. Word is that Vaa'i might get run at 6. If Cane back then RD or Wally for 8.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

                I love humour like that

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                @MN5 said in Italy v All Blacks:

                @nostrildamus said in Italy v All Blacks:

                I hope Love plays and touches down. So I can tell my Italian friends "hey, that's Amore!"

                I love humour like that

                Like a big meaty pie, that's amore?

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                • TimT Tim

                  Is Narawa still with the squad?

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                  @Tim said in Italy v All Blacks:

                  Is Narawa still with the squad?

                  No. He didn't travel with AB XV due to injury in NPC final.

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                    I got oil on the loosie trio vs Italy Savea, Cane, Sititi and Lakai off the bench not that I agree with it

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                      I got oil on the loosie trio vs Italy Savea, Cane, Sititi and Lakai off the bench not that I agree with it

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                      @mikey07 Assume Finau is out, he looked bad after that collision. He seemed to slip as he went to tackle, and at the point of collision the back of his head was facing forward, and was the contact point.

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                        I got oil on the loosie trio vs Italy Savea, Cane, Sititi and Lakai off the bench not that I agree with it

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                        @mikey07 said in Italy v All Blacks:

                        I got oil on the loosie trio vs Italy Savea, Cane, Sititi and Lakai off the bench not that I agree with it

                        is that 8 7 6 or 6 7 8?

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @mikey07 Assume Finau is out, he looked bad after that collision. He seemed to slip as he went to tackle, and at the point of collision the back of his head was facing forward, and was the contact point.

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                          @Tim said in Italy v All Blacks:

                          @mikey07 Assume Finau is out, he looked bad after that collision. He seemed to slip as he went to tackle, and at the point of collision the back of his head was facing forward, and was the contact point.

                          Confirmed on 12 day minimum stand down

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                            dude, they are your words in your post. i am simply asking you to clarify what you mean. Sam Cane is the best openside in the country right now, and caps are not "wasted" on him. And for all they hype, he is not less able than Lakai, he is far more able.

                            Now, if you are talking about TJP, who is very lucky to be considered in the top 3 halfbacks in teh country, let alone the top 2, then it is a different conversation. However your post doesn't make that distinction.

                            (you're not the only one to have a pop at Cane either, but yours was the final straw)

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                            brodean
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                            @mariner4life said in Italy v All Blacks:

                            dude, they are your words in your post. i am simply asking you to clarify what you mean. Sam Cane is the best openside in the country right now, and caps are not "wasted" on him. And for all they hype, he is not less able than Lakai, he is far more able.

                            Now, if you are talking about TJP, who is very lucky to be considered in the top 3 halfbacks in teh country, let alone the top 2, then it is a different conversation. However your post doesn't make that distinction.

                            (you're not the only one to have a pop at Cane either, but yours was the final straw)

                            Number All Blacks Rucks under 3s on NH Tour
                            37 Japan ( Cane starts at 7 )
                            43 England ( Cane starts at 7 )
                            40 Ireland ( Cane starts at 7 )
                            78 France ( Savea starts at 7 )

                            How do you know we wouldn't have lost by more if Cane started?

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                              @mariner4life said in Italy v All Blacks:

                              dude, they are your words in your post. i am simply asking you to clarify what you mean. Sam Cane is the best openside in the country right now, and caps are not "wasted" on him. And for all they hype, he is not less able than Lakai, he is far more able.

                              Now, if you are talking about TJP, who is very lucky to be considered in the top 3 halfbacks in teh country, let alone the top 2, then it is a different conversation. However your post doesn't make that distinction.

                              (you're not the only one to have a pop at Cane either, but yours was the final straw)

                              Number All Blacks Rucks under 3s on NH Tour
                              37 Japan ( Cane starts at 7 )
                              43 England ( Cane starts at 7 )
                              40 Ireland ( Cane starts at 7 )
                              78 France ( Savea starts at 7 )

                              How do you know we wouldn't have lost by more if Cane started?

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                              @brodean

                              How many rucks over 3s per match?

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                                @mariner4life said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                dude, they are your words in your post. i am simply asking you to clarify what you mean. Sam Cane is the best openside in the country right now, and caps are not "wasted" on him. And for all they hype, he is not less able than Lakai, he is far more able.

                                Now, if you are talking about TJP, who is very lucky to be considered in the top 3 halfbacks in teh country, let alone the top 2, then it is a different conversation. However your post doesn't make that distinction.

                                (you're not the only one to have a pop at Cane either, but yours was the final straw)

                                Number All Blacks Rucks under 3s on NH Tour
                                37 Japan ( Cane starts at 7 )
                                43 England ( Cane starts at 7 )
                                40 Ireland ( Cane starts at 7 )
                                78 France ( Savea starts at 7 )

                                How do you know we wouldn't have lost by more if Cane started?

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                                reprobate
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                                @brodean The stat I find disturbing is the very high % of 0-3s rucks for Ireland.

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                                  I got oil on the loosie trio vs Italy Savea, Cane, Sititi and Lakai off the bench not that I agree with it

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                                  @mikey07 if accurate I wonder why Robertson didn't allow Lio-Willie to play some actual Rugby for the XV

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                                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                    @mikey07 said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                    I got oil on the loosie trio vs Italy Savea, Cane, Sititi and Lakai off the bench not that I agree with it

                                    is that 8 7 6 or 6 7 8?

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                                    @nostrildamus that’s all I could get out of my source I’m guessing Sititi 6 Cane 7 and Savea 8 which to me seems silly I’d put Savea at 6 and leave Sititi at 8.

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                                    • GrooterG Grooter

                                      @mikey07 if accurate I wonder why Robertson didn't allow Lio-Willie to play some actual Rugby for the XV

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                                      @Grooter said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                      @mikey07 if accurate I wonder why Robertson didn't allow Lio-Willie to play some actual Rugby for the XV

                                      100% totally agree I think that’s been the problem on this tour too many of the guys brought into the ABs squad to hold tackle bags instead of playing.

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                                      • R reprobate

                                        @brodean The stat I find disturbing is the very high % of 0-3s rucks for Ireland.

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                                        brodean
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                                        @reprobate said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                        @brodean The stat I find disturbing is the very high % of 0-3s rucks for Ireland.

                                        The stats are for the All Blacks rucks under 3 seconds.

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                                          @reprobate said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                          @brodean The stat I find disturbing is the very high % of 0-3s rucks for Ireland.

                                          The stats are for the All Blacks rucks under 3 seconds.

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                                          Mr Fish
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                                          @brodean said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                          @reprobate said in Italy v All Blacks:

                                          @brodean The stat I find disturbing is the very high % of 0-3s rucks for Ireland.

                                          The stats are for the All Blacks rucks under 3 seconds.

                                          NZ had 61% possession against France so were always going to have more rucks under 3 seconds. Do you have the stats as a percentage of total rucks, or number of rucks over 3 seconds?

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