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    Lam replaced Plummer in the squad - Plummer picked up a leg injury

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    @KiwiMurph said in New Zealand v Italy:

    Lam replaced Plummer in the squad - Plummer picked up a leg injury

    I would like to see Lam get some burn. He can cover midfield and wing

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    You pick your best side otherwise like others who’ve underestimated Italy you could be wearing egg

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    @MiketheSnow said in New Zealand v Italy:

    You pick your best side otherwise like others who’ve underestimated Italy you could be wearing egg

    We don't want to fall into the Fozzie trap of flooding the team with newbies. But I would like to see at least a couple of the fringe players getting a run

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    @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

    @MiketheSnow said in New Zealand v Italy:

    You pick your best side otherwise like others who’ve underestimated Italy you could be wearing egg

    We don't want to fall into the Fozzie trap of flooding the team with newbies. But I would like to see at least a couple of the fringe players getting a run

    Outside of injury they should be riding the pine desperate to get on

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    Ethan de Groot
    Asafo Aumua
    Pasilio Tosi
    Patrick Tuipulotu
    Josh Lord
    Ardie Savea
    Sam Cane
    Peter Lakai
    Cam Roigard
    Damian McKenzie
    Caleb Clarke
    David Havili
    Anton Lienert-Brown
    Mark Tele'a
    Ruben Love

    George Bell
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    Fletcher Newell
    Fabian Holland
    Christian Lio-Willie
    TJ Perenara
    Stephen Perofeta
    AJ Lam

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    @Billy-Tell said in New Zealand v Italy:

    @Bones said in New Zealand v Italy:

    I bet they still ignore Proctor.

    Given he’s no longer in the squad I’d say you’re right.

    Disgraceful.

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    I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

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    @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

    Need a good hard runner, who can distribute

    That's exactly what Lam is.

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    @Bones said in New Zealand v Italy:

    @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

    Need a good hard runner, who can distribute

    That's exactly what Lam is.

    He did that during SR. For what it's worth....

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    @canefan said in New Zealand v Italy:

    @Bones said in New Zealand v Italy:

    @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

    Need a good hard runner, who can distribute

    That's exactly what Lam is.

    He did that during SR. For what it's worth....

    He did it more recently than that.

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    @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

    I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

    Not sure it was a choice

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    Real shame ENS got injured, he's accurate and well rounded, could go great guns at test level. Fihaki is unexplainable.

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    @Bones said in New Zealand v Italy:

    Real shame ENS got injured, he's accurate and well rounded, could go great guns at test level. Fihaki is unexplainable.

    Yeah he's even luckier than Havili.

    He's still in the squad isn't he? Or will Tele'a be fit?

    The update said Plummers injury was minor leg injury. Will Lam be retained?

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    @Mr-Fish said in New Zealand v Italy:

    Ethan de Groot
    Asafo Aumua
    Pasilio Tosi
    Patrick Tuipulotu
    Josh Lord
    Ardie Savea
    Sam Cane
    Peter Lakai
    Cam Roigard
    Damian McKenzie
    Caleb Clarke
    David Havili
    Anton Lienert-Brown
    Mark Tele'a
    Ruben Love

    George Bell
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    Fletcher Newell
    Fabian Holland
    Christian Lio-Willie
    TJ Perenara
    Stephen Perofeta
    AJ Lam

    The starting midfield has a bit of a tang to it.

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    @brodean It does but it's hard to see Razor plumping for any other options given they're both part of the original EOYT squad and neither has seen significant minutes.

    I don't really think AJ Lam is the long-term answer either so while I'd prefer to see him get a run ahead of Havili so he can at least prove me wrong, it's not something I'll be losing sleep over.

    Would love to have had Billy Proctor, Quinn Tupaea or Riley Higgins in there as a better option but don't think they're with the squad.

    Maybe (and I'm only half joking here) Chay Fihaki?

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    @booboo said in New Zealand v Italy:

    @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

    I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

    Not sure it was a choice

    No, but that second half, I think showed how important he is to us (at least while we don’t have a gun 10)…

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    @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

    I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

    Um are we talking about Lam's game at 12? He can run pass and tackle. One thing I haven't seen enough of to judge is his kicking.

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    @brodean said in New Zealand v Italy:

    The starting midfield has a bit of a tang to it.

    Tang? What do you mean? I thought it meant something sharp?

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    @nostrildamus said in New Zealand v Italy:

    @frugby said in New Zealand v Italy:

    I am happy to give Lam a crack, but long-term I’m not sure he is the answer. Good player, but not really what we need at 12… another outside back. Need a good hard runner, who can distribute. Despite the criticism, the ABs were massively worse after taking J Barrett off

    Um are we talking about Lam's game at 12? He can run pass and tackle. One thing I haven't seen enough of to judge is his kicking.

    Kicking a big issue I think… the other thing which we won’t know until tried also, is his running lines. Havili and ALB both struggle to carry straight up the guts at the top top level.

    Lam in theory should be able to do it, but it does not always play out like that

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