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  • S Steven Harris

    Was in at the Sport Nation studios on friday , picked up some oil that both Fihaki and Tangitau will be selected in the first All Black squad .

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    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

    Was in at the Sport Nation studios on friday , picked up some oil that both Fihaki and Tangitau will be selected in the first All Black squad .

    Players locked in before the business end of Super Rugby

    Interesting....

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

      Was in at the Sport Nation studios on friday , picked up some oil that both Fihaki and Tangitau will be selected in the first All Black squad .

      Players locked in before the business end of Super Rugby

      Interesting....

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      @KiwiMurph thought the same as well , personally i would like to see these players under a more pressure come the playoffs ,knock out rugby you tend find out a bit more .

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        Would like to know the metrics they're judging Fihaki on.

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        • boobooB booboo

          Would like to know the metrics they're judging Fihaki on.

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          @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

          Would like to know the metrics they're judging Fihaki on.

          Height?

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            Would like to know the metrics they're judging Fihaki on.

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            @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

            Would like to know the metrics they're judging Fihaki on.

            All other metrics fade into insignificance next to the ā€˜playing for the Crusaders’ metric

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            • boobooB booboo

              Would like to know the metrics they're judging Fihaki on.

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              @booboo to be fair his form is way better than it was last year when he was a surprise selection has shown some really good speed in open space at times and does possess a massive punt and can place kick from distance

              I really don’t know end of the day Razor seems to see something in him that many of us can’t see
              Anything to add @Chris

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              • S Steven Harris

                @booboo to be fair his form is way better than it was last year when he was a surprise selection has shown some really good speed in open space at times and does possess a massive punt and can place kick from distance

                I really don’t know end of the day Razor seems to see something in him that many of us can’t see
                Anything to add @Chris

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                @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                @booboo to be fair his form is way better than it was last year when he was a surprise selection has shown some really good speed in open space at times and does possess a massive punt and can place kick from distance

                I really don’t know end of the day Razor seems to see something in him that many of us can’t see
                Anything to add @Chris

                I have noticed he has moved in to the midfield when defending inside the 22 and has pulled off some big direct hits.If you go back and track him in the replays.
                He does get lost on defence when he is wide sometimes but it seems that is a defensive pattern Matt Todd is using as Amua does the same thing.
                He has pace is a big unit they might see him as a good option under the high ball.big boot which may get us down field.
                People have their favourites I am not sure how he would go in test rugby.
                I am not convinced he will be selected atm.

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                  I just don't see it eh. Yeah he's playing reasonably, but both Blues wingers, both Chiefs winger, both Highlanders wingers, the other Crusaders winger and the Crusaders FB are better wingers than him for me.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                    I get the vibe there is a whole crew of Aucklanders who are willing him on to fail, which I find really weird

                    I find it really weird that's the vibe you get.

                    Lol usually when you have mixed results as ABs coach you get criticized right?

                    Foster got criticised for breathing eating by most of the country.

                    Yes

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                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                    I get the vibe there is a whole crew of Aucklanders who are willing him on to fail, which I find really weird

                    I find it really weird that's the vibe you get.

                    Lol usually when you have mixed results as ABs coach you get criticized right?

                    Foster got criticised for breathing eating by most of the country.

                    Yes

                    I breathe, therefore I eat?

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                    • S Steven Harris

                      Was in at the Sport Nation studios on friday , picked up some oil that both Fihaki and Tangitau will be selected in the first All Black squad .

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                      @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Was in at the Sport Nation studios on friday , picked up some oil that both Fihaki and Tangitau will be selected in the first All Black squad .

                      Even if one of them breaks their leg? šŸ™‚

                      Pretty early in the season to be locking in newbies, so I'm a bit sceptical that they are - but, I daresay both are being watched closely.

                      I'm imagining that for the French tests, FaingaƔnuku won't be back in the country -but, after that, I'm pretty sure he'll become a part of the equation. When does Jordie become available?

                      If they're selecting a pretty bloated squad of 36 for France, then the backs will look something like:

                      Roigard, Ratima, Hotham
                      BBarrett, McKenzie
                      JBarrett, Ioane, ALB, Proctor, Havili
                      Clarke, Reece
                      Jordan, Love

                      And then a few from FaingaƔnuku, Tangitau, Narawa, Fihaki, Perofeta, TeleƔ - and whomever else I've forgotten or has caught their eye.

                      Not sure there's space for both of Tangitau and Fihaki for a start.

                      There isn't in my squad - I don't need four wings.

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                        https://twitter.com/GauthierBaudin/status/1858047763058954581

                        Cannot understand why anyone would pick Reece for test rugby. Very slow last year.

                        Tangitau has shown real pace and talent.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          https://twitter.com/GauthierBaudin/status/1858047763058954581

                          Cannot understand why anyone would pick Reece for test rugby. Very slow last year.

                          Tangitau has shown real pace and talent.

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                          @Tim Super rugby stats:

                          https://super.rugby/superrugby/competition-stats/

                          Reece is:

                          3rd= in tries scored
                          3rd= in clean breaks
                          4th in defenders beaten
                          7th in metres gained
                          1st in offloads

                          An incumbent AB winger and one of the other two has signed offshore.

                          I don't see him missing out to Fihaki!

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Was in at the Sport Nation studios on friday , picked up some oil that both Fihaki and Tangitau will be selected in the first All Black squad .

                            Even if one of them breaks their leg? šŸ™‚

                            Pretty early in the season to be locking in newbies, so I'm a bit sceptical that they are - but, I daresay both are being watched closely.

                            I'm imagining that for the French tests, FaingaƔnuku won't be back in the country -but, after that, I'm pretty sure he'll become a part of the equation. When does Jordie become available?

                            If they're selecting a pretty bloated squad of 36 for France, then the backs will look something like:

                            Roigard, Ratima, Hotham
                            BBarrett, McKenzie
                            JBarrett, Ioane, ALB, Proctor, Havili
                            Clarke, Reece
                            Jordan, Love

                            And then a few from FaingaƔnuku, Tangitau, Narawa, Fihaki, Perofeta, TeleƔ - and whomever else I've forgotten or has caught their eye.

                            Not sure there's space for both of Tangitau and Fihaki for a start.

                            There isn't in my squad - I don't need four wings.

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                            @Chris-B Jordie will available after Leinster's season ends on May 17th or May 24th if they make the European Cup final. His playing minutes have been carefully managed by Leinster so fatigue won't be a factor. My guess is that he will play a half of so of a club footy once he's back in New Zealand. He'll be a contender for Player of the Season in the Northern Hemisphere for 2024-5. Bar serious injury, he's a certainty for the All Blacks squad against France.

                            Leicester F is still contracted with Toulon until the end of July. Under NZR rules he will need to play for Ta$man in the NPC before he's All Blacks eligible. So he might play towards the end of the Rugby Championship if there is an injury. I think he's a near certainty for the end of year tour. He's played well at Toulon and Robertson is a fan.

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @Tim Super rugby stats:

                              https://super.rugby/superrugby/competition-stats/

                              Reece is:

                              3rd= in tries scored
                              3rd= in clean breaks
                              4th in defenders beaten
                              7th in metres gained
                              1st in offloads

                              An incumbent AB winger and one of the other two has signed offshore.

                              I don't see him missing out to Fihaki!

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                              @Chris-B He did that at Super Rugby level last year too, and struggled all season for the ABs.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                https://twitter.com/GauthierBaudin/status/1858047763058954581

                                Cannot understand why anyone would pick Reece for test rugby. Very slow last year.

                                Tangitau has shown real pace and talent.

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                                @Tim To be fair to Sevu Reece, Louis Bielle-Biarrey has been making lots of other wingers look slow in recent months. 21 years old and probably the best back in the world at the moment. The French are really lucky to have a such an exceptional talent. I wish we had someone like him at the moment. But we don't.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @Chris-B He did that at Super Rugby level last year too, and struggled all season for the ABs.

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                                  @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Chris-B He did that at Super Rugby level last year too, and struggled all season for the ABs.

                                  Maybe - but, I'm not sure about the logic that says we should instead pick someone else who doesn't look as good at Super rugby on the off chance they might be better at tests.

                                  TeleĆ” is leaving which opens up a spot for Tangitau, who's looked the best of the rest to me. Big Leicester is in the wings..

                                  I don't think they'll be in any rush to punt Sevu from the start of the year.

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    @Tim To be fair to Sevu Reece, Louis Bielle-Biarrey has been making lots of other wingers look slow in recent months. 21 years old and probably the best back in the world at the moment. The French are really lucky to have a such an exceptional talent. I wish we had someone like him at the moment. But we don't.

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                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    I wish we had someone like him at the moment. But we don't.

                                    We could well do, but we're not getting the chance to find out with the selection of average carthorses possessing bland all round skills.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      I wish we had someone like him at the moment. But we don't.

                                      We could well do, but we're not getting the chance to find out with the selection of average carthorses possessing bland all round skills.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      I wish we had someone like him at the moment. But we don't.

                                      We could well do, but we're not getting the chance to find out with the selection of average carthorses possessing bland all round skills.

                                      the correct term is "vanilla"

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        I wish we had someone like him at the moment. But we don't.

                                        We could well do, but we're not getting the chance to find out with the selection of average carthorses possessing bland all round skills.

                                        the correct term is "vanilla"

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                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        I wish we had someone like him at the moment. But we don't.

                                        We could well do, but we're not getting the chance to find out with the selection of average carthorses possessing bland all round skills.

                                        the correct term is "vanilla"

                                        I thought we'd established that now means the opposite?

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                                          At the end of the day, I wouldn't even be surprised to see Shalfoon, Kemara, McLeod and Springer selected. Fihaki and CLW are set in stone.

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