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All Blacks 2025

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  • C cgrant

    Tele'a was the most impressive Highlander on the paddock. He is so underrated. Based on this SR season, he is a better 13 than Ioane, IMO.

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    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

    Tele'a was the most impressive Highlander on the paddock. He is so underrated. Based on this SR season, he is a better 13 than Ioane, IMO.

    How does he rate against Proctor?

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      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

      You seriously get people like JK who's analysis is 'the boys will really be up for it this week, I'm picking them'. Great that people like it, but it's an entertainment show, not a rugby show.

      JK who famously said he had never heard of Rivez Reihana before his Super Rugby debut despite Reihana playing 3 seasons of NPC prior to that.

      Phenomenal human being, terrible analyst, mixed bag as a coach

      Handy winger in his playing days too

      Sheesh, that's a bit of an insult.

      He was fucking outstanding. 😉

      just being understated. JK is the man. My absolute favourite AB of his era ( zinny a close second and daylight to the rest )

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      @MN5 Jones, JK, Zinny all favourites

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        @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

        Tele'a was the most impressive Highlander on the paddock. He is so underrated. Based on this SR season, he is a better 13 than Ioane, IMO.

        How does he rate against Proctor?

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        @booboo
        I don't know. They have so different qualities and styles of play that a comparison would be odd. In this peculiar game, I think Tele'a was the most influential. He is an attacking weapon that the Highlanders have sorely lacked in recent times.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          @frugby Fakatava probably just misses out. But the other three must be there.

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          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

          @frugby Fakatava probably just misses out. But the other three must be there.

          Roigard hasn't been stand-out this year and has been a bit meh at times. Hopefully he'll click in before the Tests

          Not too worried. We seem to have reasonable options at 9.

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            Number 7: Ardie Savea.

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              Anyone else a bit worried that we aren't exactly overflowing with talented players on the Wing in form, in peak fitness and committed to staying in NZ to the next World Cup?

              The options are looking decidedly meagre.

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                Scooter should just hand over the captaincy to Ardie now.

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                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @frugby Fakatava probably just misses out. But the other three must be there.

                  Roigard hasn't been stand-out this year and has been a bit meh at times. Hopefully he'll click in before the Tests

                  Not too worried. We seem to have reasonable options at 9.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @frugby Fakatava probably just misses out. But the other three must be there.

                  Roigard hasn't been stand-out this year and has been a bit meh at times. Hopefully he'll click in before the Tests

                  Not too worried. We seem to have reasonable options at 9.

                  He finally started running the ball last night. More of that please Cam.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    Scooter should just hand over the captaincy to Ardie now.

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                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Scooter should just hand over the captaincy to Ardie now.

                    He's a shit AB captain Too agreeable

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      Anyone else a bit worried that we aren't exactly overflowing with talented players on the Wing in form, in peak fitness and committed to staying in NZ to the next World Cup?

                      The options are looking decidedly meagre.

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                      @sparky Taumoefolau would be a bolter but he's a year away from being eligible, someone with more knowledge than me may know why he was never in the Crusaders system?

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                      • F Frank

                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Scooter should just hand over the captaincy to Ardie now.

                        He's a shit AB captain Too agreeable

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                        @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Scooter should just hand over the captaincy to Ardie now.

                        He's a shit AB captain Too agreeable

                        I’d prefer him though because he plays 80 and doesn’t get carded every two seconds like big munter Barrett.

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                          Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

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                            Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

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                            @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

                            As the AB who holds the record for red cards, this comment is chef's kiss ferning.

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                              Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

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                              @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

                              Scott is a card magnet, everyone knows that. I haven’t seen any evidence that Barrett handles the refs better than Ardie when Barrett gets himself in the bin frequently.

                              Plus Ardie is the type of player everyone will lift for, not sure SBarrett has the same influence.

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                                Finlay Christie is surely an ex- All Black. There are at least five better other options at Half Backs

                                A few other All Blacks backs from The Blues are in terrible form: Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Reiko Ioane.

                                If they can't sure better form in the final week then they risk the BIG CHOP from the selectors.

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                                  Finlay Christie is surely an ex- All Black. There are at least five better other options at Half Backs

                                  A few other All Blacks backs from The Blues are in terrible form: Caleb Clarke, Beauden Barrett, Reiko Ioane.

                                  If they can't sure better form in the final week then they risk the BIG CHOP from the selectors.

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                                  @sparky when was the last time an experienced All Black was actually given the Chop? Owen Franks in 2019? TJP by Foster maybe? the last half decade only fringe guys Sotutu, Narawa etc. have suffered such a fate. I guess we will see what unfolds. Razor be ruthless give Rieko for example a kick up the ass send him to the NZ Maori team if need be

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                                    Roigard, Ratima, Hotham, Fakatava, Funaki and even Preston are better options than Christie.

                                    Pledger won't be ready for a couple of years but he's the most promising young halfback coming through right now with Sinton.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

                                      Scott is a card magnet, everyone knows that. I haven’t seen any evidence that Barrett handles the refs better than Ardie when Barrett gets himself in the bin frequently.

                                      Plus Ardie is the type of player everyone will lift for, not sure SBarrett has the same influence.

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                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Barret plays 80 and manages the ref better.

                                      Scott is a card magnet, everyone knows that. I haven’t seen any evidence that Barrett handles the refs better than Ardie when Barrett gets himself in the bin frequently.

                                      Plus Ardie is the type of player everyone will lift for, not sure SBarrett has the same influence.

                                      He only had one YC last year, so is on the improve since becoming captain.

                                      We need a group of strong leaders and that’s where I think we are lacking.

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                                        Darren
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                                        After watching the Landers v Canes
                                        I'd say my bolter is Tele'a He was very impressive

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                                          After watching the Landers v Canes
                                          I'd say my bolter is Tele'a He was very impressive

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                                          @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          After watching the Landers v Canes
                                          I'd say my bolter is Tele'a He was very impressive

                                          I'd be interested to see his defensive stats, but he's certainly not a shirker. If we want a guy to truck it up and actually make ground, he appears to be the best shout.

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