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  • S Steven Harris

    @george33 cant say iโ€™m a Finau fan , i thought this was the perfect game for him to make a presence and shut a critic like me up but for mine he was too quiet i dont think Blackadder is the answer either but you cant deny how busy he was .
    Finau doesโ€™nt make my team personally someone like TK Howden has shown more of a consistent presence during the comp

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    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

    @george33 cant say iโ€™m a Finau fan , i thought this was the perfect game for him to make a presence and shut a critic like me up but for mine he was too quiet i dont think Blackadder is the answer either but you cant deny how busy he was .
    Finau doesโ€™nt make my team personally someone like TK Howden has shown more of a consistent presence during the comp

    If the Chiefs performance is anything to go by, Parker is the best chance we have of fielding a 6 who will make the oppo think twice about running into his channel.

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    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

      @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

      The irony is - picked as a 10 - what runs on the board does Ruben Love have? Half a dozen Super Rugby starts?

      Little more at 10 than Rivez. And no trophy to show either. Unless they pick him as a 10/15

      A Roigard - Love combo would be logical ...

      Laidlaw was an idiot moving Love back to 15. The Canes were on a role with Love at 10 and that decision ultimately cost us from progressing further.

      Next year, the Canes have to stick with that combo. Theyโ€™ll be much better for it.

      They also have to stick with the Higgins / Proctor combo which forces Jordie back to 15.

      Agree on the Roigard / Love combo. One of the better and balanced 9-10s in super rugby.

      On the Jordie take, Iโ€™m not sure about that. The season at Leinster highlighted that Jordieโ€™s play at 12 troubled NH defences. Barring some disaster I think he will be our 12 for the run to 2027. I was impressed.

      What was clear for me from last season is that the Jordie / Ioane combo doesnโ€™t get us going the way I think the coaches would want.

      In RWC 2023 as individual players I thought both were superb and playing a more conservative and narrow game they were okay-ish. But on the face of it I think we could get a lot more with a Jordie / Proctor combination with a guy like QT being the ALB like bench option.

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      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

      @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

      The irony is - picked as a 10 - what runs on the board does Ruben Love have? Half a dozen Super Rugby starts?

      Little more at 10 than Rivez. And no trophy to show either. Unless they pick him as a 10/15

      A Roigard - Love combo would be logical ...

      Laidlaw was an idiot moving Love back to 15. The Canes were on a role with Love at 10 and that decision ultimately cost us from progressing further.

      Next year, the Canes have to stick with that combo. Theyโ€™ll be much better for it.

      They also have to stick with the Higgins / Proctor combo which forces Jordie back to 15.

      Agree on the Roigard / Love combo. One of the better and balanced 9-10s in super rugby.

      On the Jordie take, Iโ€™m not sure about that. The season at Leinster highlighted that Jordieโ€™s play at 12 troubled NH defences. Barring some disaster I think he will be our 12 for the run to 2027. I was impressed.

      What was clear for me from last season is that the Jordie / Ioane combo doesnโ€™t get us going the way I think the coaches would want.

      In RWC 2023 as individual players I thought both were superb and playing a more conservative and narrow game they were okay-ish. But on the face of it I think we could get a lot more with a Jordie / Proctor combination with a guy like QT being the ALB like bench option.

      I am thinking the same way on midfield. Jordie can also move one out if he needs to play with QT. I think they should move on from Reiko as starting center but they can use him as a wing or bench cover. Also like AJ Lam for similar.

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        Frugby was right months ago when he said Razor would eventually lessen Crusaders bias, just needed time thank you for service Blackadder and Havili but it's been time

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          Pleased with some of the changes

          There's some exciting talent waiting in the wings too either right on the fringe or injured

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            That's not a bad squad. Maybe Razor isn't the homer we thought he was. Kudos to him so far

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              Back row still feels undersized for me.

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              • D DMX

                Back row still feels undersized for me.

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                @DMX well it's actually got smaller hasn't it?

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                  @DMX well it's actually got smaller hasn't it?

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                  @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @DMX well it's actually got smaller hasn't it?

                  Yes, I would agree.

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                  • D DMX

                    Back row still feels undersized for me.

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                    @DMX said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Back row still feels undersized for me.

                    Robertson is selecting them in his own image.

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                    • D DMX

                      Back row still feels undersized for me.

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                      @DMX said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Back row still feels undersized for me.

                      Needs to get Kaino into camp to show these guys how to properly hit rucks and make dominant tackles

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                        Caleb Clarke has escaped conviction for fleeing the police. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/all-blacks-blues-star-caleb-clark-sentenced-for-fleeing-from-police/UDFFZFZTHVEM5JYVPV2R7R6LUI/

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                        • B brodean

                          @Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Bones

                          A pot belly on a professional athlete would generally be considered an indicator of lack of conditioning.

                          Lack of conditioning is generally an indicator that an athlete doesn't take their preparation seriously and lacks professionalism.

                          Some coaches of elite teams don't like to have players like that on their teams.

                          He definitely doesn't lack professionalism. the most respected respected player by his peers at the landers, played all bar 15 minutes this season. Lead the round robin in defenders beaten & turnover won. If Razor needs him to lose 3kgs over the next month I'm sure he would accept such a challenge

                          He did that last year too. Most defenders beaten and turnovers won. He wasn't even called in to the AB XV.

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                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Bones

                          A pot belly on a professional athlete would generally be considered an indicator of lack of conditioning.

                          Lack of conditioning is generally an indicator that an athlete doesn't take their preparation seriously and lacks professionalism.

                          Some coaches of elite teams don't like to have players like that on their teams.

                          He definitely doesn't lack professionalism. the most respected respected player by his peers at the landers, played all bar 15 minutes this season. Lead the round robin in defenders beaten & turnover won. If Razor needs him to lose 3kgs over the next month I'm sure he would accept such a challenge

                          He did that last year too. Most defenders beaten and turnovers won. He wasn't even called in to the AB XV.

                          a True bolter then ๐Ÿ™‚

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                            Caleb Clarke has escaped conviction for fleeing the police. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/all-blacks-blues-star-caleb-clark-sentenced-for-fleeing-from-police/UDFFZFZTHVEM5JYVPV2R7R6LUI/

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                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Caleb Clarke has escaped conviction for fleeing the police. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/all-blacks-blues-star-caleb-clark-sentenced-for-fleeing-from-police/UDFFZFZTHVEM5JYVPV2R7R6LUI/

                            Well, at least he is still somewhat elusive....

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                              Makes me think he sees Ardie as a 7 and Kirifi as a like for like replacement.

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                              • GrooterG Grooter

                                @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Bones

                                A pot belly on a professional athlete would generally be considered an indicator of lack of conditioning.

                                Lack of conditioning is generally an indicator that an athlete doesn't take their preparation seriously and lacks professionalism.

                                Some coaches of elite teams don't like to have players like that on their teams.

                                He definitely doesn't lack professionalism. the most respected respected player by his peers at the landers, played all bar 15 minutes this season. Lead the round robin in defenders beaten & turnover won. If Razor needs him to lose 3kgs over the next month I'm sure he would accept such a challenge

                                He did that last year too. Most defenders beaten and turnovers won. He wasn't even called in to the AB XV.

                                a True bolter then ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                @Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Bones

                                A pot belly on a professional athlete would generally be considered an indicator of lack of conditioning.

                                Lack of conditioning is generally an indicator that an athlete doesn't take their preparation seriously and lacks professionalism.

                                Some coaches of elite teams don't like to have players like that on their teams.

                                He definitely doesn't lack professionalism. the most respected respected player by his peers at the landers, played all bar 15 minutes this season. Lead the round robin in defenders beaten & turnover won. If Razor needs him to lose 3kgs over the next month I'm sure he would accept such a challenge

                                He did that last year too. Most defenders beaten and turnovers won. He wasn't even called in to the AB XV.

                                a True bolter then ๐Ÿ™‚

                                He was injured last year. Not available for either of the EOYT squads

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                                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Caleb Clarke has escaped conviction for fleeing the police. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/all-blacks-blues-star-caleb-clark-sentenced-for-fleeing-from-police/UDFFZFZTHVEM5JYVPV2R7R6LUI/

                                  Well, at least he is still somewhat elusive....

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                                  @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Caleb Clarke has escaped conviction for fleeing the police. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/all-blacks-blues-star-caleb-clark-sentenced-for-fleeing-from-police/UDFFZFZTHVEM5JYVPV2R7R6LUI/

                                  Well, at least he is still somewhat elusive....

                                  20+ tests into his AB career and still a bolter

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                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Caleb Clarke has escaped conviction for fleeing the police. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/all-blacks-blues-star-caleb-clark-sentenced-for-fleeing-from-police/UDFFZFZTHVEM5JYVPV2R7R6LUI/

                                    Well, at least he is still somewhat elusive....

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                                    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Caleb Clarke has escaped conviction for fleeing the police. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/all-blacks-blues-star-caleb-clark-sentenced-for-fleeing-from-police/UDFFZFZTHVEM5JYVPV2R7R6LUI/

                                    Well, at least he is still somewhat elusive....

                                    He still got caught.....

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      Caleb Clarke has escaped conviction for fleeing the police. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/all-blacks-blues-star-caleb-clark-sentenced-for-fleeing-from-police/UDFFZFZTHVEM5JYVPV2R7R6LUI/

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Caleb Clarke has escaped conviction for fleeing the police. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/all-blacks-blues-star-caleb-clark-sentenced-for-fleeing-from-police/UDFFZFZTHVEM5JYVPV2R7R6LUI/

                                      Showed good speed, so Razor decided to select

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                                        Will Jordan is going to have to score a hell of a lot of tries to make up for Clarke and Reeceโ€™s profligacy at international level.

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                                        • D DMX

                                          Makes me think he sees Ardie as a 7 and Kirifi as a like for like replacement.

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                                          @DMX said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Makes me think he sees Ardie as a 7 and Kirifi as a like for like replacement.

                                          That is my hope (and what I reckon).
                                          My worry is that he sees Ardie as 8, Kirifi as 7 and Sititi as 6.

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