All Blacks 2025
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Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
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That's cool that he's named after William Wallace
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
This is where I read up on his England eligibility - as soon as November this year.
From the tone of his comments it seems like he doesn't think he will be (or has been) given a fair shot to make the team and there's not much incentive to give up England eligibility just to hold the tackle bags at a few training camps and warm the bench.
I'm not sure how much he would feature in Englands plans either but I suppose his agent will be trying to determine that and what the market is for him in Europe this (NH) summer.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
This is where I read up on his England eligibility - as soon as November this year.
From the tone of his comments it seems like he doesn't think he will be (or has been) given a fair shot to make the team and there's not much incentive to give up England eligibility just to hold the tackle bags at a few training camps and warm the bench.
I'm not sure how much he would feature in Englands plans either but I suppose his agent will be trying to determine that and what the market is for him in Europe this (NH) summer.
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I think you've read too much into his comments. They come across as quite humble to me.
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
I think you've read too much into his comments. They come across as quite humble to me.
FS, not saying he is not humble, I just detect an air of defeatism when he says "it's not something I even think about anymore".... Like he's made peace with the fact he may never get back into the All Blacks setup.
It's just the classic NZ problem of having a surplus of talent and not enough jerseys to go around.
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Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024
He was injured.
Here' what Robertson said at he time :
"We were going to bring Hoskins in, but he’s injured,” declared Robertson. “We’ve been considering it over the last couple of days, but with his knee, after scans, he won't come"He's a player that some people like to make shit up about. A similar rumour was pushed last week
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024
He was injured.
Here' what Robertson said at he time :
"We were going to bring Hoskins in, but he’s injured,” declared Robertson. “We’ve been considering it over the last couple of days, but with his knee, after scans, he won't come"He's a player that some people like to make shit up about. A similar rumour was pushed last week
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024
He was injured.
Here' what Robertson said at he time :
"We were going to bring Hoskins in, but he’s injured,” declared Robertson. “We’ve been considering it over the last couple of days, but with his knee, after scans, he won't come"He's a player that some people like to make shit up about. A similar rumour was pushed last week
I stand corrected.
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
I think you've read too much into his comments. They come across as quite humble to me.
FS, not saying he is not humble, I just detect an air of defeatism when he says "it's not something I even think about anymore".... Like he's made peace with the fact he may never get back into the All Blacks setup.
It's just the classic NZ problem of having a surplus of talent and not enough jerseys to go around.
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
It's just the classic NZ problem of having a surplus of talent and not enough jerseys to go around.
Eh? Our halfbacks have gone off the boil, we're so desperate we're poaching locks from the Netherlands and props from Australia, (props from Australia!) we don't have a clear, class-leading 10, still not settled on the loosies, and we're still plundering Fiji for backs. Oh and our wings have Japanese names or need to learn how to run backwards without falling over, we have to send our 12 to Ireland to learn how to play in the midfield and our coach has the overwhelming international experience of coaching Brazil.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024
He was injured.
Here' what Robertson said at he time :
"We were going to bring Hoskins in, but he’s injured,” declared Robertson. “We’ve been considering it over the last couple of days, but with his knee, after scans, he won't come"He's a player that some people like to make shit up about. A similar rumour was pushed last week
I stand corrected.
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
I stand corrected.
Not your fault, the rumour was everywhere. He seems to be a target for a lot of bullshit recently
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
I stand corrected.
Not your fault, the rumour was everywhere. He seems to be a target for a lot of bullshit recently
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
I stand corrected.
Not your fault, the rumour was everywhere. He seems to be a target for a lot of bullshit recently
Yeah thanks Duluth. I often forget where and when I read stuff too so it's hard to track and also know how reliable the source was. Certainly wasn't trying to throw out false news.
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
I stand corrected.
Not your fault, the rumour was everywhere. He seems to be a target for a lot of bullshit recently
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
I stand corrected.
Not your fault, the rumour was everywhere. He seems to be a target for a lot of bullshit recently
He really is. Has he done something off the field that we dont knwo about?
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@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
It's just the classic NZ problem of having a surplus of talent and not enough jerseys to go around.
Eh? Our halfbacks have gone off the boil, we're so desperate we're poaching locks from the Netherlands and props from Australia, (props from Australia!) we don't have a clear, class-leading 10, still not settled on the loosies, and we're still plundering Fiji for backs. Oh and our wings have Japanese names or need to learn how to run backwards without falling over, we have to send our 12 to Ireland to learn how to play in the midfield and our coach has the overwhelming international experience of coaching Brazil.
It is doom and gloom, I tell you!@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:
It's just the classic NZ problem of having a surplus of talent and not enough jerseys to go around.
Eh? Our halfbacks have gone off the boil, we're so desperate we're poaching locks from the Netherlands and props from Australia, (props from Australia!) we don't have a clear, class-leading 10, still not settled on the loosies, and we're still plundering Fiji for backs. Oh and our wings have Japanese names or need to learn how to run backwards without falling over, we have to send our 12 to Ireland to learn how to play in the midfield and our coach has the overwhelming international experience of coaching Brazil.
It is doom and gloom, I tell you!No it's not. Razor jettisoned Blackadder and Papalii so now there's just one flavour of Vanilla in the squad in Jacobsen.
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In that PR article Sotutu basically said he wants to focus on the job at hand and not worry about things outside of his control.
Acknowledges there is a lot competition.
Played the questions with a straight bat really.
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
In that PR article Sotutu basically said he wants to focus on the job at hand and not worry about things outside of his control.
Acknowledges there is a lot competition.
Played the questions with a straight bat really.
Considering all the rumours, the solid investigative journalism on this has been ... ah, don't know...
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Well that’s because there’s no story (despite the rumours) and I don’t even think Hoskins knows what he wants to do.
Nor does he really say a lot when he speaks - as seen above.
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
Well that’s because there’s no story (despite the rumours) and I don’t even think Hoskins knows what he wants to do.
Nor does he really say a lot when he speaks - as seen above.
Surely that can't be true? There must be a conspiracy!
I mean - I heard the only reason Dalton isn't in the team is that he head-butted Razor!
Hoskins - I heard Hoskins threw Razor out a four-storey window for giving his wife a foot massage!
That one's specially for you Zed! (Excellent choice of name!)
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not really much different to last year, no stripes on the shoulders
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not really much different to last year, no stripes on the shoulders
@Kiwiwomble an improvement none the less. Removal of shoulder stripes is good
