All Blacks 2025
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i swear i am being gaslit 
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Does he have Aderns PR team or something? 
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I'm interested in the perspectives of others when it comes to the point of difference our loose forwards bring as individuals. After his debut season I'm happy for Sititi to come back when fit. But Savea, Kirifi and Lakai (and to a lesser extent Lio-Willie) appear to be much the same. No doubt Parker will get an opportunity once for, so he can join Finau and Vaai. I'd like to see Beehre also in that mix as his cameos in the tight were always noticeably positive. We have the bodies to have an imposing pack, despite the preferences of the coach. 
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025: Does he have Aderns PR team or something? Maybe we need the politics section back so you righty tighties can keep it in your pants on the sports threads.  
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025: But Savea, Kirifi and Lakai (and to a lesser extent Lio-Willie) appear to be much the same. can't agree with this point because Savea continues to be an enigma. The ruck attendance stats posted in the other thread don't seem to match the eye test so i would be interest as to how many of those he arrived at 3rd and leaned on. He absolutely cleaned a couple later in the test, memorable for their exception. 
 But he's getting picked, he's playing 80, and he is going to do his own thing. The bigger question is what shirt should he wear?The other 3 are small busy loose forwards without a real point of difference. With Vaai and Finau playing the dirty stuff, Savea doing his thing, what do we need from the #8? Is it purely a worker? If so, then that guy can't be another smaller body, he needs to make a difference when contact is required. I tell you what, a Finau, Savea, Vaai starting trio with Sititi off the bench would be tough to handle. 
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025: @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025: Does he have Aderns PR team or something? Maybe we need the politics section back so you righty tighties can keep it in your pants on the sports threads.  It wasn't meant as a political post, she did have a good PR team  probably not as good as Beauden's though TBH! probably not as good as Beauden's though TBH!
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@booboo I fed those names into Chat GTP and asked it if they would be available for the start of the Rugby Championship. 
  Unavailable for Start of Championship Unavailable for Start of Championship- 
^Ofa Tu’ungafasi – Undergoing neck surgery and ruled out for the rest of Super Rugby Pacific, making him unlikely to return by early August oai_citation:0‡SuperSport. 
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^Beauden Barrett – Suffered a fractured right hand in early March. Expected 6–8 weeks of recovery, which means he’ll be close to match fitness in May–June; likely fully fit by August oai_citation:1‡RUGBY.com.au oai_citation:2‡SABC Sport oai_citation:3‡RugbyPass. 
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^Wallace Sititi – Long-term knee injury still ruling him out. 
 
  Mid-Term/Conditional – Likely Fit by August Mid-Term/Conditional – Likely Fit by August
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^Josh Lord – “Mid-term” knee concern; unclear timeline but expected back pre-championship. 
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^Ethan Blackadder – Quad injury with unspecified timeline, but recovery likely before August. 
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^Scott Barrett – Despite recent breaks (missed two tests vs France due to a broken finger), he's training and expected to be match-ready well before the Rugby Championship oai_citation:4‡Reddit oai_citation:5‡Reddit oai_citation:6‡Reuters. 
 
  Fit or Uninjured Fit or Uninjured- Scott Barrett, Tamati Williams, Tyrell Lomax, Asafo Aumua, Luke Jacobsen, Peter Lakai, Simon Parker, Reiko Ioane, Caleb Clarke, Stephen Perofeta—all expected to be available once their minor issues settle.
 
  Summary Table Summary TablePlayer Status Likely Available in August Ofa Tu’ungafasi Out rest of Super Rugby (neck surgery)  No NoBeauden Barrett Fractured hand (6–8 weeks)  Yes YesSam Darry Season-ending shoulder  No NoWallace Sititi Long-term knee  No NoTyrell Lomax Ankle injury (short-term)  Yes YesAsafo Aumua Concussion (returned)  Yes YesLuke Jacobsen Minor nose issue  Yes YesScott Barrett Broken finger, back in training  Yes YesJosh Lord Mid-term knee  Probably ProbablyEthan Blackadder Quad injury  Likely LikelyPeter Lakai Fit  Yes YesSimon Parker Fit  Yes YesReiko Ioane Fit  Yes YesCaleb Clarke Minor thigh issue  Yes YesStephen Perofeta Calf strain (short)  Yes YesTamati Williams Fit  Yes Yes
  Final Take Final Take- Definitely unavailable: Tu’ungafasi, Darry, Sititi.
- Uncertain depending on recovery: Blackadder, Lord.
- Likely fit: Beauden Barrett (prior hand issue), Scott Barrett, Lomax, Aumua, Jacobsen, Williams, Parker, Ioane, Clarke, Perofeta, Lakai.
 So by early August, most of the squad should be ready—except for the long-term injured trio and two players who are the last to fully recover. 
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025: @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025: @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025: Does he have Aderns PR team or something? Maybe we need the politics section back so you righty tighties can keep it in your pants on the sports threads.  It wasn't meant as a political post, she did have a good PR team  probably not as good as Beauden's though TBH! probably not as good as Beauden's though TBH!No one has good a PR team as the Barrett family. 
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AI slop  
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@zedsdeadbaby It's also missed Caleb Clarke's injury. 
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He was absent from the discussion of first / second to the breakdown in the discussion on the rugby pod (no idea if by design or not). They did mention stat hunters who go to many rucks as the third when they shouldn’t be needed…. 
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@mariner4life much like the post 2am dancefloor hunt it's no secret I prefer big bodies. Vaai, Finau and Savea is probably the best we can hope for with the current administration. But I view with great scepticism stats suggesting Ardie does much at ruck time other than try to be the next person to carry. 

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