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    pakman
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    #4854

    Just rewatched last year’s Jo’burg test. Striking how superior ABs were to Boks, who were remarkably toothless.
    Apart from the obvious comment that Boks were extremely fortunate to end up with W, a few comments:

    1. Hard cleaning 7 key;
    2. Blackadder had many involvements, but very much quantity over quality;
    3. Obvious AB weakness aerially. Off the top of my head Boks got 75% pay. Caleb Clarke, who was excellent in the air, was the only one of the AB back three who matched his opposition.; and
    4. Bench was changed extremely poorly. But it was after that Boks got back into game, aided by a rather partial referee.
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      P.S. I see the starting Boks front row (Ox/Bongi/Wilco Louw) as being quite scary, but the bench props are just standard international level.

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        @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

        @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

        Was really impressed last year when he deputised when Roigard was out but maybe it’s just me

        Don't get me wrong mate, he was pretty handy, just I don't really think he is a real high level 9. That is the case with a bloody lot of good players we got in the country, and absolutely no insult to them. I think perhaps Viljoen could evelop a snappier pass, and pick his times to break or angle he runs, he tends to get isolated at times. Once again that's not real bad, and these things could come to round him off as a top level 9.

        Seems a bit harsh, was my POD against Harbour, he's young and has a higher ceiling than the likes of Preston etc, although probably will be overtaken by Jai Tamati anyway.

        Why does he have a higher ceiling? Yet another bit part canes player selected to the universe XV that would crush the world XV.

        I'm completely neutral in this discussion, as a Highlanders supporter, but apologies if I hurt your feelings. He's a 21 year old, early in his career, who in his limited opportunities has bossed players considerably more experienced than he is. Preston is 26 and in his first season, and was immediately moved to the bench once Hotham was fit and healthy.

        No feelings hurt, I was just asking the question...as a highlanders supporter 🤦‍♂️

        I've definitely missed the bossing though.

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        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

        @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

        Was really impressed last year when he deputised when Roigard was out but maybe it’s just me

        Don't get me wrong mate, he was pretty handy, just I don't really think he is a real high level 9. That is the case with a bloody lot of good players we got in the country, and absolutely no insult to them. I think perhaps Viljoen could evelop a snappier pass, and pick his times to break or angle he runs, he tends to get isolated at times. Once again that's not real bad, and these things could come to round him off as a top level 9.

        Seems a bit harsh, was my POD against Harbour, he's young and has a higher ceiling than the likes of Preston etc, although probably will be overtaken by Jai Tamati anyway.

        Why does he have a higher ceiling? Yet another bit part canes player selected to the universe XV that would crush the world XV.

        I'm completely neutral in this discussion, as a Highlanders supporter, but apologies if I hurt your feelings. He's a 21 year old, early in his career, who in his limited opportunities has bossed players considerably more experienced than he is. Preston is 26 and in his first season, and was immediately moved to the bench once Hotham was fit and healthy.

        No feelings hurt, I was just asking the question...as a highlanders supporter 🤦‍♂️

        I've definitely missed the bossing though.

        Mate, he absolutely humiliated... Um... L Campbell, on Friday night, he's All Blacks ready.

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            Well shit Razor got his man

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              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

              @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

              @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

              @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

              Was really impressed last year when he deputised when Roigard was out but maybe it’s just me

              Don't get me wrong mate, he was pretty handy, just I don't really think he is a real high level 9. That is the case with a bloody lot of good players we got in the country, and absolutely no insult to them. I think perhaps Viljoen could evelop a snappier pass, and pick his times to break or angle he runs, he tends to get isolated at times. Once again that's not real bad, and these things could come to round him off as a top level 9.

              Seems a bit harsh, was my POD against Harbour, he's young and has a higher ceiling than the likes of Preston etc, although probably will be overtaken by Jai Tamati anyway.

              Why does he have a higher ceiling? Yet another bit part canes player selected to the universe XV that would crush the world XV.

              I'm completely neutral in this discussion, as a Highlanders supporter, but apologies if I hurt your feelings. He's a 21 year old, early in his career, who in his limited opportunities has bossed players considerably more experienced than he is. Preston is 26 and in his first season, and was immediately moved to the bench once Hotham was fit and healthy.

              No feelings hurt, I was just asking the question...as a highlanders supporter 🤦‍♂️

              I've definitely missed the bossing though.

              Mate, he absolutely humiliated... Um... L Campbell, on Friday night, he's All Blacks ready.

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                Kiwiwomble
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                so he'll miss 2026 super season....maybe play NPC but probably go with the AB's...then one super season and a RWC in 2027?

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                  mariner4life
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                  If i was DMac i would have my agent on the phone now and get the fuck out. Take that money Damo, and cheers for the Chiefs memories.

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                    so he'll miss 2026 super season....maybe play NPC but probably go with the AB's...then one super season and a RWC in 2027?

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                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                    so he'll miss 2026 super season....maybe play NPC but probably go with the AB's...then one super season and a RWC in 2027?

                    yeah play NPC 2026 he has signed with Canterbury then go on the 2026 EOYT.SR with Crusaders 2027 play the WC then probably back to Japan in 2028.

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                      We'll be waiting till 2028 to see the All Blacks begin developing a new first five. That is extremely depressing.

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                        Kiwiwomble
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                        cant say i like the whole idea if swooping back in just for a RWC

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          cant say i like the whole idea if swooping back in just for a RWC

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                          cant say i like the whole idea if swooping back in just for a RWC

                          Not my favourite situation either.

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                            Anyone got oil on what htey will be paying him? I mean, he was on a poultice in Japan, so it'll hit the coffers I suspect

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                              Damian shouldn’t have turned down that R360 deal

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                                Kirwan
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                                What a terrible precedent for a very average player. I wouldn't even have wanted a mercenary deal like this for Carter, and Ritchie is no Dan Carter.

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                                  Canes4life
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                                  If Razor throws Mo’unga the keys and he doesn’t help us deliver another WC title, Razor can pack his bags in my view. He can live and die by the ‘Crusader’ sword with this move.

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    cant say i like the whole idea if swooping back in just for a RWC

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                                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    cant say i like the whole idea if swooping back in just for a RWC

                                    Today's episode is brought to you by the letter M, m is for mercenary

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                                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                                      What a terrible precedent for a very average player. I wouldn't even have wanted a mercenary deal like this for Carter, and Ritchie is no Dan Carter.

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                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      What a terrible precedent for a very average player. I wouldn't even have wanted a mercenary deal like this for Carter, and Ritchie is no Dan Carter.

                                      Feels more like the Lucky Lucre deal. Acid will be on Richie and Razor for this to work

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                                        canefan
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                                        Love and Reihana will have to content themselves with building their case for AB 10 ready for post RWC27 I guess 🙄

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                                          and are we going to be developing a gameplan that might not work right now....but will 100% click when RM slots back in?

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