All Blacks 2025
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Barrett has started at 10 against Ireland on eight occasions and NZ have won three of those games.
Can't be bothered looking at all the others but clearly very disingenuous stats.
I would expect Barrett should have the highest winning percentage at 10, Mo'unga second and McKenzie third just based on NZ's relative dominance during each of the periods they occupied the jersey.
In terms of their actual performances, I'd say they're all relatively similar but Barrett has previously had the easiest ride.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.
I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.
I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date
I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.
That makes me unhappy.
Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...
Me neither, but he copped a bit after the first week of NPC when some thought he was a lot quieter than expected. That's when someone claimed he had been pretty sick.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.
I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.
I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date
I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.
That makes me unhappy.
Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...
Me neither, but he copped a bit after the first week of NPC when some thought he was a lot quieter than expected. That's when someone claimed he had been pretty sick.
I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with the point @Nepia was making.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.
I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.
I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date
I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.
That makes me unhappy.
Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.
I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.
I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date
I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.
That makes me unhappy.
Can't say I noticed him
being off his usual game...Fixed
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.
I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.
I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date
I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.
That makes me unhappy.
Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...
Me neither, but he copped a bit after the first week of NPC when some thought he was a lot quieter than expected. That's when someone claimed he had been pretty sick.
I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with the point @Nepia was making.
@booboo said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.
I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.
I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date
I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.
That makes me unhappy.
Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...
Me neither, but he copped a bit after the first week of NPC when some thought he was a lot quieter than expected. That's when someone claimed he had been pretty sick.
I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with the point @Nepia was making.
Yeah, I did suspect @nepia had his tongue in his cheek, but decided to take him seriously anyway.
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An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
Fastest? He'd probably make a decent winger then
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An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.
Nick Gill is still the trainer isn't he?
Either this info is out of date, the team is incredibly slow or Rieko is carrying an injury because 2025 Rieko is nowhere near as fast as 2017 Rieko.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@pakman Him or Will Jordan.
Gill said on recent podcast that Will has great acceleration but top speed significantly less.
@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@pakman Him or Will Jordan.
Gill said on recent podcast that Will has great acceleration but top speed significantly less.
Looks like he's packed on a fair bit of upper body this year too, seemed to be lacking a bit of top end in SR.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.
Nick Gill is still the trainer isn't he?
Either this info is out of date, the team is incredibly slow or Rieko is carrying an injury because 2025 Rieko is nowhere near as fast as 2017 Rieko.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.
Nick Gill is still the trainer isn't he?
Either this info is out of date, the team is incredibly slow or Rieko is carrying an injury because 2025 Rieko is nowhere near as fast as 2017 Rieko.
Or, idk, he's just the fastest in the team.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.
Nick Gill is still the trainer isn't he?
Either this info is out of date, the team is incredibly slow or Rieko is carrying an injury because 2025 Rieko is nowhere near as fast as 2017 Rieko.
Or, idk, he's just the fastest in the team.
@WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.
Nick Gill is still the trainer isn't he?
Either this info is out of date, the team is incredibly slow or Rieko is carrying an injury because 2025 Rieko is nowhere near as fast as 2017 Rieko.
Or, idk, he's just the fastest in the team.
I covered that here:
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.
Nick Gill is still the trainer isn't he?
Either this info is out of date, the team is incredibly slow or Rieko is carrying an injury because 2025 Rieko is nowhere near as fast as 2017 Rieko.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.
Nick Gill is still the trainer isn't he?
Either this info is out of date, the team is incredibly slow or Rieko is carrying an injury because 2025 Rieko is nowhere near as fast as 2017 Rieko.
There's always the possibility our perception doesn't match with reality.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.
Nick Gill is still the trainer isn't he?
Either this info is out of date, the team is incredibly slow or Rieko is carrying an injury because 2025 Rieko is nowhere near as fast as 2017 Rieko.
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.
This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.
Nick Gill is still the trainer isn't he?
Either this info is out of date, the team is incredibly slow or Rieko is carrying an injury because 2025 Rieko is nowhere near as fast as 2017 Rieko.
Seeing Rieko live vs France I was surprised at how much bigger he looked in the flesh and I agree, he certainly didn’t quite look like the speedster of 2017/18
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:
Soooo slow
You do realise this footage is from 2018?
SBW in the backline making a magnificent comeback in 2025!!!!!!
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To my eye Rieko still has (most) of his top end pace, once he's in the clear he is gone and that hasn't changed. His acceleration probably isn't quite what it was 5 years ago, but pace won't be an issue for him overall.
