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  • A African Monkey

    @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

    @chchfanatic Great post!

    Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

    Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

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    Nepia
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    @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

    @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

    @chchfanatic Great post!

    Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

    Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

    I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.

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    • A African Monkey

      @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

      @chchfanatic Great post!

      Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

      Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

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      #314

      @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

      @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

      @chchfanatic Great post!

      Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

      Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

      @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

      @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

      @chchfanatic Great post!

      Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

      Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

      Has been inconsistent all weekend. IMO, none of the ones I have seen are red cards. Millar the closest, but it was such low force, with Toala driving forward, which is probably the mitigation.

      Sotutu's was clumsy, but again, hardly high force/danger. Not quite sure how that wasn't just a yellow.

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        Duluth
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        That Telea try was special. Strange that the clipped versions of it online miss the buildup.. the BB and Clarke runs

        Those runs were missing from the official SR highlights too

        For those that didn't see the full try, these extended highlights show it at 8:35

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        • F frugby

          @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          @chchfanatic Great post!

          Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

          Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

          @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          @chchfanatic Great post!

          Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

          Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

          Has been inconsistent all weekend. IMO, none of the ones I have seen are red cards. Millar the closest, but it was such low force, with Toala driving forward, which is probably the mitigation.

          Sotutu's was clumsy, but again, hardly high force/danger. Not quite sure how that wasn't just a yellow.

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          Nepia
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          @frugby said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          @chchfanatic Great post!

          Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

          Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

          @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

          @chchfanatic Great post!

          Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

          Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

          Has been inconsistent all weekend. IMO, none of the ones I have seen are red cards. Millar the closest, but it was such low force, with Toala driving forward, which is probably the mitigation.

          Sotutu's was clumsy, but again, hardly high force/danger. Not quite sure how that wasn't just a yellow.

          Razor and his cabal are behind it, they can't afford to have Sotutu dominate this year and not pick him. Even though he's easing himself into the comp, they want to enforce a few weeks where he can't play. 100% fact.

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            voodoo
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            Can anybody the fatties on here explain the last scrum penalty to me? From my β€œnever been in a scrum” position, it looked like they were heaps straighter than the previous reset and they totally folded the Blues pack - was it illegal? I couldn’t hear the comms, was the penalty for boring in?

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              That Telea try was special. Strange that the clipped versions of it online miss the buildup.. the BB and Clarke runs

              Those runs were missing from the official SR highlights too

              For those that didn't see the full try, these extended highlights show it at 8:35

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              booboo
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              #318

              @Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

              That Telea try was special. Strange that the clipped versions of it online miss the buildup.. the BB and Clarke runs

              Those runs were missing from the official SR highlights too

              For those that didn't see the full try, these extended highlights show it at 8:35

              Telea's slow eh?

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                Duluth
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                #319

                Good to see the Blues defence get back to it's previous standards. It was still a bit leaky in the first half but came right in the second spell. The Canes had plenty of ball but often it was slow or behind the gainline

                Only conceding 2 tries when a side like the Canes has 60% possession is a good effort

                Incidentally I have the opta stats. Anything you guys want to know?

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  Good to see the Blues defence get back to it's previous standards. It was still a bit leaky in the first half but came right in the second spell. The Canes had plenty of ball but often it was slow or behind the gainline

                  Only conceding 2 tries when a side like the Canes has 60% possession is a good effort

                  Incidentally I have the opta stats. Anything you guys want to know?

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                  African Monkey
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                  @Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                  Good to see the Blues defence get back to it's previous standards. It was still a bit leaky in the first half but came right in the second spell. The Canes had plenty of ball but often it was slow or behind the gainline

                  Only conceding 2 tries when a side like the Canes has 60% possession is a good effort

                  Incidentally I have the opta stats. Anything you guys want to know?

                  Yeah sometimes you just need a win to get things going, and who knows, maybe that was it. Still miles away from where we want to be, but a BP win in the capital might just be what we need to turn our fortunes around, and the BP is almost a reward for as you pointed out, our defensive effort.

                  In regards to the stats, give us anything!

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                    Duluth
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                    Screenshot 2025-03-02 at 12.45.25β€―PM.png

                    Impressive from Dalton considering he only played 58mins

                    Beehre was a machine. Those ruck arrivals plus 25 tackles (RR next most Blues tackles with 19 and for the Canes Kirifi had the top with 12)

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                      Duluth
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                      Lakai and Suafoa both had disappointing games on defence

                      PL made 10 missed 5
                      CS made 12 missed 5

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                        Duluth
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                        Roigard is the dominant kicker for the Canes.

                        Screenshot 2025-03-02 at 12.52.02β€―PM.png

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                          Duluth
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                          Canes generally ahead on the carry stats. Number of carries, metres, one out carries etc.

                          Blues did pretty good on dominant tackles

                          Both stats are related to that 60/40 possession split though

                          Screenshot 2025-03-02 at 12.57.26β€―PM.png

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                            @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                            @chchfanatic Great post!

                            Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

                            Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

                            I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.

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                            canefan
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #325

                            @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                            @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                            @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                            @chchfanatic Great post!

                            Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

                            Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

                            I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.

                            People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                              @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                              @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                              @chchfanatic Great post!

                              Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

                              Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

                              I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.

                              People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now

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                              Nepia
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                              #326

                              @canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                              @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                              @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                              @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                              @chchfanatic Great post!

                              Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

                              Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

                              I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.

                              People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now

                              It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.

                              Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe. πŸ™‚

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                Lakai and Suafoa both had disappointing games on defence

                                PL made 10 missed 5
                                CS made 12 missed 5

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                                Nepia
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #327

                                @Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                Lakai and Suafoa both had disappointing games on defence

                                PL made 10 missed 5
                                CS made 12 missed 5

                                Raw stats yes but maybe with the asterisk of maybe some of the missed tackles were last ditch attempts to cover other's mistakes?

                                Not arguing that, I didn't watch the game intently, just speculating as sometimes, as we all know, the raw stats don't always tell the whole story.

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  @canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                  @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                  @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                  @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                  @chchfanatic Great post!

                                  Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

                                  Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

                                  I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.

                                  People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now

                                  It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.

                                  Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe. πŸ™‚

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                                  canefan
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                                  #328

                                  @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                  @canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                  @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                  @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                  @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                  @chchfanatic Great post!

                                  Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

                                  Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

                                  I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.

                                  People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now

                                  It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.

                                  Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe. πŸ™‚

                                  I'm sure they can make a library of correct decisions for AI to base it's decisions on. I do that all the time with CF Jr's homework

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                    That Telea try was special. Strange that the clipped versions of it online miss the buildup.. the BB and Clarke runs

                                    Those runs were missing from the official SR highlights too

                                    For those that didn't see the full try, these extended highlights show it at 8:35

                                    Telea's slow eh?

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                                    KiwiMurph
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                                    @booboo said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                    @Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                    That Telea try was special. Strange that the clipped versions of it online miss the buildup.. the BB and Clarke runs

                                    Those runs were missing from the official SR highlights too

                                    For those that didn't see the full try, these extended highlights show it at 8:35

                                    Telea's slow eh?

                                    He went around Hohepa who is in the running as the slowest back in the comp - I'm not sure this is the example to use to claim Tele'a is fast.

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @chchfanatic Great post!

                                      Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

                                      Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

                                      I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.

                                      People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now

                                      It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.

                                      Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe. πŸ™‚

                                      I'm sure they can make a library of correct decisions for AI to base it's decisions on. I do that all the time with CF Jr's homework

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                                      Nepia
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                                      @canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @canefan said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @Nepia said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @Tim said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                      @chchfanatic Great post!

                                      Speaking of Sotutu, how come he got red when Cam Millar got nothing on Friday night?

                                      Watching it again, Sotutu should have only got yellow. Hard done by.

                                      I genuinely have no fucking idea how they judge cards anymore. People try to make out there's a process being followed. If there actually is one then it's a shit process.

                                      People laughed at me a couple of years ago when I said someone should use AI to decide on which infringements get which punishment. The tech has advanced so much I reckon it would work. And besides it can't be any worse than the shit we have now

                                      It would be just as dumb as now because it will have been trained on dumb decisions.

                                      Would we feel better about it knowing that dumb AI was making the decision rather than dumb humans - maybe. πŸ™‚

                                      I'm sure they can make a library of correct decisions for AI to base it's decisions on. I do that all the time with CF Jr's homework

                                      Who is making that library?

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        @frugby said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                        Barrett is far from perfect these days, but I do agree that the Blues improved when he went to 10. I just wonder if some of the Blues players lack the motivation they have in recent years? Blues fans correct me, but I feel they could benefit from injecting some players with something to prove?

                                        I agree with this. I thought it was noticeable guys like C Christie adding some energy.

                                        There's a few big names who look to be going through the motions

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                                        Duluth
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                                        @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                        guys like C Christie adding some energy

                                        He took his chance. I wonder long term his correct position is blindside? He's played there for NH before

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          Lakai and Suafoa both had disappointing games on defence

                                          PL made 10 missed 5
                                          CS made 12 missed 5

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                                          African Monkey
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                                          #332

                                          @Duluth said in Hurricanes vs Blues:

                                          Lakai and Suafoa both had disappointing games on defence

                                          PL made 10 missed 5
                                          CS made 12 missed 5

                                          Yeah Suafoa is an interesting case. He's our best bet at 6 for now, but a step down from Ioane . Not saying he's not physically commanding, but he's not as physical in the tight as Akira was especially last year.

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