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WR U20 Championship 2025

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  • M Mamuka

    Hello , what are the heights of Vakasiuola and Sa?

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    @Mamuka said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

    Hello , what are the heights of Vakasiuola and Sa?

    Tengblad is easily the tallest of the locks chosen. I've seen Vakasiuola listed as about 1.97 m (more with the Ardie hair), and Sa is a little shorter.

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      My top XV would be this:

      1 Pole
      2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
      3 Wallace
      4 Vakasiuola
      5 Tengblad
      6 Sa
      7 Mathis
      8 Bason
      9 Pledger
      10 Simpson/Cole
      11 Vaenuku
      12 Wiseman
      13 Cameron
      14 Kunawave
      15 Solomon

      The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

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      @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

      My top XV would be this:

      1 Pole
      2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
      3 Wallace
      4 Vakasiuola
      5 Tengblad
      6 Sa
      7 Mathis
      8 Bason
      9 Pledger
      10 Simpson/Cole
      11 Vaenuku
      12 Wiseman
      13 Cameron
      14 Kunawave
      15 Solomon

      The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

      My own preferences are pretty similar to this, including Sa as a blindside option.

      One thing I'll say though, after watching way too many defensive sets from the U20 TRC, is that Xavier Treacy and Cooper Roberts put in big defensive shifts during that tournament. I'm not sure you can leave them out. Treacy was also a very reliable lineout option.

      I would probably put Vakasiuola on the bench, to provide impact in the final 20-30 minutes. I'd like to see Cameron have a shot at 12 since I'm just intrigued to see what he can offer there.

      I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament. He's still a promising player, so hopefully he has an improved showing in Italy.

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      • MaussM Mauss

        @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

        My top XV would be this:

        1 Pole
        2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
        3 Wallace
        4 Vakasiuola
        5 Tengblad
        6 Sa
        7 Mathis
        8 Bason
        9 Pledger
        10 Simpson/Cole
        11 Vaenuku
        12 Wiseman
        13 Cameron
        14 Kunawave
        15 Solomon

        The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

        My own preferences are pretty similar to this, including Sa as a blindside option.

        One thing I'll say though, after watching way too many defensive sets from the U20 TRC, is that Xavier Treacy and Cooper Roberts put in big defensive shifts during that tournament. I'm not sure you can leave them out. Treacy was also a very reliable lineout option.

        I would probably put Vakasiuola on the bench, to provide impact in the final 20-30 minutes. I'd like to see Cameron have a shot at 12 since I'm just intrigued to see what he can offer there.

        I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament. He's still a promising player, so hopefully he has an improved showing in Italy.

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        @Mauss Agreed, plus Tofilau's bulk could be useful if we come up against France or England in the tournament

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          Milton Haig has stepped down. Credit to the person that suggested it yesterday.

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            I would've thought Joey Taumateine and Tito-Harris would have been there.

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              "I do not feel I’m fully aligned with the coaching group around things like playing style, so have made the difficult decision to step aside to give the team its best chance of reaching its full potential".

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360704357/not-aligned-nz-under-20-rugby-coach-milton-haig-makes-shock-announcement

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                So did he walk or was he pushed? Either way, hopefully it is better for the team

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                  England lost Wales when Pollock got called up to the senior team. He will be away with the lions so England won't be as strong as the looked early in the 6 nations. France will lose some players to the NZ tour. Players like tuilagi will probably be with the seniors in NZ. NZ have a great chance of winning this with a easy group. Ireland came last in the 6 nations

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                  • Z zedsdeadbaby

                    Milton Haig has stepped down. Credit to the person that suggested it yesterday.

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                    @zedsdeadbaby said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                    Milton Haig has stepped down.

                    Is it time to parachute in the Professor for another quick fix?

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                    • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                      @zedsdeadbaby said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                      Milton Haig has stepped down.

                      Is it time to parachute in the Professor for another quick fix?

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                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                      @zedsdeadbaby said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                      Milton Haig has stepped down.

                      Is it time to parachute in the Professor for another quick fix?

                      Isn't he with the black ferns?

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                      • MaussM Mauss

                        @Bovidae said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                        My top XV would be this:

                        1 Pole
                        2 Oudenryn (it will be Letiu)
                        3 Wallace
                        4 Vakasiuola
                        5 Tengblad
                        6 Sa
                        7 Mathis
                        8 Bason
                        9 Pledger
                        10 Simpson/Cole
                        11 Vaenuku
                        12 Wiseman
                        13 Cameron
                        14 Kunawave
                        15 Solomon

                        The loose forward and midfield combinations will be hotly contested. I would select Sa as a 6, not a lock.

                        My own preferences are pretty similar to this, including Sa as a blindside option.

                        One thing I'll say though, after watching way too many defensive sets from the U20 TRC, is that Xavier Treacy and Cooper Roberts put in big defensive shifts during that tournament. I'm not sure you can leave them out. Treacy was also a very reliable lineout option.

                        I would probably put Vakasiuola on the bench, to provide impact in the final 20-30 minutes. I'd like to see Cameron have a shot at 12 since I'm just intrigued to see what he can offer there.

                        I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament. He's still a promising player, so hopefully he has an improved showing in Italy.

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                        @Mauss said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                        I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament.

                        As I said when the RC squad was named, I don't think they've got their prop selections right. Nothing has really changed, even with the addition of Wallace. Italy and Georgia will be a test for the scrum.

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                        • H hikastags

                          I would've thought Joey Taumateine and Tito-Harris would have been there.

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                          @hikastags said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                          I would've thought Joey Taumateine and Tito-Harris would have been there.

                          Taumateine might still be injured.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @Mauss said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                            I'm a bit miffed at Tofilau not being selected, I thought he did more than enough to earn his spot. Ahloo, on the other hand, can probably count himself a bit lucky, as I didn't think he had a good tournament.

                            As I said when the RC squad was named, I don't think they've got their prop selections right. Nothing has really changed, even with the addition of Wallace. Italy and Georgia will be a test for the scrum.

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                            Mamuka
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                            @Bovidae This year, Georgia does not have dominant props, but the scrums will still be interesting

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                              Any word on the real reasons for Haig going?

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                                Logan Wallace is training with the Canes atm and looks to have beefed up a bit, hopefully this helps with our scrum.

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  Any word on the real reasons for Haig going?

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                                  @booboo The staff and players did not like him. I think he sees everything differently because he spent almost 10 years in Europe.

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                                    I don't understand why New Zealand teams in Super Rugby U20 were so weak in defense. I have only seen highlights, because in Georgia we didn’t have access to full broadcasts, but it's still very noticeable that they don't focus on defense. That's why European teams are better. It's very sad. I think New Zealand rugby should revise their priorities in the style of playing. I also think defense will be the first problem for New Zealand at the World Cup.

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                                      @booboo The staff and players did not like him. I think he sees everything differently because he spent almost 10 years in Europe.

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                                      @Mamuka which is ridiculous as we need fresh ideas on varying plays to bring to our game, for a period it was all but a requirement for AB coaches....

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                                      • M Mamuka

                                        I don't understand why New Zealand teams in Super Rugby U20 were so weak in defense. I have only seen highlights, because in Georgia we didn’t have access to full broadcasts, but it's still very noticeable that they don't focus on defense. That's why European teams are better. It's very sad. I think New Zealand rugby should revise their priorities in the style of playing. I also think defense will be the first problem for New Zealand at the World Cup.

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                                        @Mamuka said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                        I also think defense will be the first problem for New Zealand at the World Cup.

                                        All the RC teams conceded a lot of points in their games. Maybe the attack was also better?

                                        After watching a few of the 6N U20 games I'm not sure their defence was any better. Maybe England and France at times, but those teams missed plenty of tackles and leaked points too. Ground conditions will play a big part in how the games are played in Italy.

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                                        • M Mamuka

                                          I don't understand why New Zealand teams in Super Rugby U20 were so weak in defense. I have only seen highlights, because in Georgia we didn’t have access to full broadcasts, but it's still very noticeable that they don't focus on defense. That's why European teams are better. It's very sad. I think New Zealand rugby should revise their priorities in the style of playing. I also think defense will be the first problem for New Zealand at the World Cup.

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                                          @Mamuka said in WR U20 Championship 2025:

                                          I don't understand why New Zealand teams in Super Rugby U20 were so weak in defense. I have only seen highlights, because in Georgia we didn’t have access to full broadcasts, but it's still very noticeable that they don't focus on defense. That's why European teams are better. It's very sad. I think New Zealand rugby should revise their priorities in the style of playing. I also think defense will be the first problem for New Zealand at the World Cup.

                                          Which European teams, France?

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