Otago 2025
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Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
Nah. If you read the article you'd see he is mentioned. Should likely be listed as a development player. Reading between the lines.
"Lock was always going to be a position of concern now Fabian Holland is virtually certain to be a regular in the All Blacks and New Zealand under-20 giant Josh Tengblad is being developed carefully."
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Otago squad.
https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/interesting-newcomers-stable-squad
Players unavailable:
Holland, Christian Lio-Willie and George Bower are with the All Blacks, and Finn Hurley (quad, 10-12 weeks), Oliver Haig (ankle, 4-6 weeks), Jona Nareki (knee, 4-6 weeks), Josh Whaanga (knee, 6-8 weeks) and Jake Te Hiwi (groin, 4-6 weeks) are sidelined.
NPC squad
Hookers: Liam Coltman (Utah Warriors), Henry Bell (Kaikorai), A-One Lolofie (Zingari-Richmond).
Props: George Bower (Harbour), Benjamin Lopas (Green Island), Saula Ma’u (Harbour), Abraham Pole (Harbour), Moana Takataka (Kaikorai), Rohan Wingham (Dunedin).
Locks: Fabian Holland (Dunedin), Joseva Tamani (Fijian Drua), Will Tucker (Kaikorai).
Loose forwards: Lucas Casey (Kaikorai), Max Ratcliffe (Dunedin), Will Stodart (University), Harry Taylor (Southern), Konrad Toleafoa (Southern), Christian Lio-Willie (Kaikorai), Oliver Haig (Green Island).
Halfbacks: Nathan Hastie (Harbour), Dylan Pledger (Kaikorai), Bob Martin (Taieri).
First five: Cameron Millar (Taieri).
Midfield backs: Sam Gilbert (Green Island), Jake Te Hiwi (Green Island), Josh Timu (Southern), Thomas Umaga-Jensen (University), Josh Whaanga (Taieri).
Outside backs: Jeremiah Asi (University), Finn Hurley (Green Island), Jona Nareki (Alhambra-Union), Charlie Powell (Manly Marlins).
With all the injured players. There wil be several listed as cover/development players
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@SouthernMann would hope Rique Miln is in as injury cover, he's a 10 but might be able to provide similar dynamic plays to Finn Hurley
@Grooter said in Otago 2025:
@SouthernMann would hope Rique Miln is in as injury cover, he's a 10 but might be able to provide similar dynamic plays to Finn Hurley
I want to see Miln get some starts at 10. We all now know what Millar can do. Try to see what some of the other options are like.
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Not naming Tengblad in the full squad is just ridiculous. He can be ‘developed carefully’ in the full squad, he’s clearly up to NPC level. Unless there is some loophole they are utilizing where they can elevate him due to other injuries it doesn’t really make much sense. Same for Kyan Rangitutia. Get your young guys locked in.
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Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
This was posted in another thread:
@Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:
NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026
The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?
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@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
This was posted in another thread:
@Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:
NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026
The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?
@Duluth said in Otago 2025:
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
This was posted in another thread:
@Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:
NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026
The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?
Probably a Highlanders directive of don't break our injury prone big man before the start of the Super season by thrashing him every week during the NPC
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@Duluth said in Otago 2025:
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
This was posted in another thread:
@Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:
NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026
The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?
Probably a Highlanders directive of don't break our injury prone big man before the start of the Super season by thrashing him every week during the NPC
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Which could achieved with a normal contract. I know NPC isn't lucrative but I assume a dev contract will pay less
@Duluth said in Otago 2025:
Which could achieved with a normal contract. I know NPC isn't lucrative but I assume a dev contract will pay less
My understanding is all national U20 players get NPC level contracts anyway.
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@Duluth said in Otago 2025:
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
This was posted in another thread:
@Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:
NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026
The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?
Probably a Highlanders directive of don't break our injury prone big man before the start of the Super season by thrashing him every week during the NPC
@SouthernMann said in Otago 2025:
@Duluth said in Otago 2025:
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
This was posted in another thread:
@Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:
NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026
The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?
Probably a Highlanders directive of don't break our injury prone big man before the start of the Super season by thrashing him every week during the NPC
That’s possible but I hope not. He needs NPC time before being thrown into Super rugby, especially in the tight 5. Would be counter productive in my opinion.
Like I said above, there has to be some loophole here or else it just doesn’t make sense at all…
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@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
This was posted in another thread:
@Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:
NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026
The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?
@Duluth said in Otago 2025:
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
This was posted in another thread:
@Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:
NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026
The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?
I think this rumour is definitely true, hence why everyone heard he was leaving (clearly he just isn’t leaving yet)
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@Duluth said in Otago 2025:
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
This was posted in another thread:
@Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:
NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026
The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?
I think this rumour is definitely true, hence why everyone heard he was leaving (clearly he just isn’t leaving yet)
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
@Duluth said in Otago 2025:
@frugby said in Otago 2025:
Tengblad has indeed been lost then... had some sauce last week that he was sticking around for this season but clearly that was referring to the Highlanders.
This was posted in another thread:
@Steven-Harris said in Auckland Rugby 2025:
NZ U20 lock Josh Tengbald has also signed with Auckland but for the 2027 season , will be linking up with the Highlanders for 2026
The Otago line about him "being developed carefully" is strange. If the above rumour is true they have two years to make use of him. Are they punishing him for moving at a later date?
I think this rumour is definitely true, hence why everyone heard he was leaving (clearly he just isn’t leaving yet)
Yeah. Well Steve Harris has been saying will depart in 2027
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This whole squad feels like talent mismanagement. What happened to Ale Aho - he's gone from hugely promising prospect to MIA. Reuben Palmer was on a national development contract and is nowhere to be seen. No Tengblad to pure madness which feels like the Hotham situation all over again. Quentin Holland presumably should have been in the frame. While No Rangitura feels just dumb, especially after the season he had last year. Stan Mclurie is another prospect who seems to have gone missing too.
It's hard to understand how Otago is SO bad to developing talent.
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This whole squad feels like talent mismanagement. What happened to Ale Aho - he's gone from hugely promising prospect to MIA. Reuben Palmer was on a national development contract and is nowhere to be seen. No Tengblad to pure madness which feels like the Hotham situation all over again. Quentin Holland presumably should have been in the frame. While No Rangitura feels just dumb, especially after the season he had last year. Stan Mclurie is another prospect who seems to have gone missing too.
It's hard to understand how Otago is SO bad to developing talent.
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This whole squad feels like talent mismanagement. What happened to Ale Aho - he's gone from hugely promising prospect to MIA. Reuben Palmer was on a national development contract and is nowhere to be seen. No Tengblad to pure madness which feels like the Hotham situation all over again. Quentin Holland presumably should have been in the frame. While No Rangitura feels just dumb, especially after the season he had last year. Stan Mclurie is another prospect who seems to have gone missing too.
It's hard to understand how Otago is SO bad to developing talent.
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I believe the midfielder from Canterbury is Jae Broomfield. Was Canterbury B player of the year last season and can also cover wing. Very classy player with great turn of pace
@Fredsaua12 said in Otago 2025:
I believe the midfielder from Canterbury is Jae Broomfield. Was Canterbury B player of the year last season and can also cover wing. Very classy player with great turn of pace
Following up on my oil here, I believe Jae was offered a contract but it wasn't taken up. unsure on whether he will end up with Canterbury or elsewhere. Trying to find more info now
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@Bovidae he did. But didn't someone say he got dropped from Tah's on here? Feels like there's a bit of a story there. He was a massive unit, and you have to feel highlanders would have been interested in a 135kg lock.
Interested if anyone has the inside word on what happened, and where he landed?
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@Bovidae he did. But didn't someone say he got dropped from Tah's on here? Feels like there's a bit of a story there. He was a massive unit, and you have to feel highlanders would have been interested in a 135kg lock.
Interested if anyone has the inside word on what happened, and where he landed?
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This whole squad feels like talent mismanagement. What happened to Ale Aho - he's gone from hugely promising prospect to MIA. Reuben Palmer was on a national development contract and is nowhere to be seen. No Tengblad to pure madness which feels like the Hotham situation all over again. Quentin Holland presumably should have been in the frame. While No Rangitura feels just dumb, especially after the season he had last year. Stan Mclurie is another prospect who seems to have gone missing too.
It's hard to understand how Otago is SO bad to developing talent.
@handa457 said in Otago 2025:
This whole squad feels like talent mismanagement. What happened to Ale Aho - he's gone from hugely promising prospect to MIA. Reuben Palmer was on a national development contract and is nowhere to be seen. No Tengblad to pure madness which feels like the Hotham situation all over again. Quentin Holland presumably should have been in the frame. While No Rangitura feels just dumb, especially after the season he had last year. Stan Mclurie is another prospect who seems to have gone missing too.
It's hard to understand how Otago is SO bad to developing talent.
stan mcure did a knee training with otago npc last year and has not played this year as he recovers
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Have thought about how the Union has gone about things since it dropped the squad this morning. And have a few thoughts
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A part from the ring ins. The rest of the squad was confirmed months ago
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We wouldn't be able to strip a fit team out of the named squad.
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not naming the back up players diminishes the likely significant role they are likely going to play in the campaign
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the current named group lacks balance. We have no back up 10. No fullback, and like the Highlanders, only two locks.
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Almost reads as if there was little wiggle room around adding additional guys.
Nothing against the guys who are named. Injuries sadly will be impacting several of our key guys.
The lads I'm hoping will get a good go are A one Lolofie, Lucas Casey, Konrad Toleafoa and Dylan Pledger.
While Nareki, Te Hiwi, Whaanga, Haig and fingers crossed Hurley will be champing at the bit if they can recover from their injuries.
I'm also hopeful we see the likes of Rique Miln, big Tengblad, Christian MacEwan and Kyan Rangitutia. It would be disappointing if Rangitutia got a decent run last year and not seen this season.
Much more pessimistic this year than last.
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