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    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Unfortunately restart receipts were an issue last year too and targeted by other teams. Something we haven't seem to have progressed with.

    It’s a very competitive area between teams at the moment. With the new laws preventing teams from blocking chasers, you’re basically receiving the ball and chasers at the same time. Front-lifters like Vaa’i and Finau also need to make sure they’re not accidentally blocking oncoming opposition players as well.

    It’ll probably take a while for teams to adapt. The ABs aren’t alone in this, the French weren’t much better at the kick-off receipt throughout the series either, losing multiple restarts as well. But having athletic 2m+ players certainly helps in this regard.

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    @Mauss for me the kicking deep is simple; our exits are shite (and have been for sometime) so they know there is a high probability of getting the ball back deep inside our half, either from a lineout, error or, a fucking chip kick in our 22.

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    I think it was the second Test when Holland dropped a few kickoffs?

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    @Crazy-Horse To be fair, Roigard's boxies were peeling off 40 odd meters pretty well in that second test. I actually dont reckon beaudie had to make an exit in the first half and we exited well most times

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    that may be so, but it's essentially handing them uncontested ball at half way and immediately applying a bit of pressure to ourselves.

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    I reckon it's kind of as simple as: if other teams kicked to us the way we kick to them, we would fucking love it.

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    @mariner4life i mean its a contested line out. I was referring to exits from kick offs into our 22. His touch finders from the base of the ruck were unreal.

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    @DurryMexted said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @Crazy-Horse To be fair, Roigard's boxies were peeling off 40 odd meters pretty well in that second test. I actually dont reckon beaudie had to make an exit in the first half and we exited well most times

    Yes Roigard can provide quality exits.

    It makes sense for JB to perform the exits.

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    @Mauss said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    Unfortunately restart receipts were an issue last year too and targeted by other teams. Something we haven't seem to have progressed with.

    It’s a very competitive area between teams at the moment. With the new laws preventing teams from blocking chasers, you’re basically receiving the ball and chasers at the same time. Front-lifters like Vaa’i and Finau also need to make sure they’re not accidentally blocking oncoming opposition players as well.

    It’ll probably take a while for teams to adapt. The ABs aren’t alone in this, the French weren’t much better at the kick-off receipt throughout the series either, losing multiple restarts as well. But having athletic 2m+ players certainly helps in this regard.

    I haven't noticed it as competitive in Super Rugby. Is it an area that lacks focus there?

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    @Duluth said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

    I think it was the second Test when Holland dropped a few kickoffs?

    Yeah, one where he misjudged the depth of the kick, at around the 15' mark, where Attissogbe beats him to the ball in the air (but knocks on himself). And the other one was at the 2nd half restart, with the ball slipping through his fingers and eventually going into touch.

    For all three Tests, the ABs kicked off in the first half and received the kick-off in the second. Interestingly, they weren't able to secure one of those 2nd half restarts (Test 1: Ioane knock on; Test 2: Holland error; Test 3: Villière beats Tuipulotu to the ball). It was a consistent aspect of the pressure the ABs put themselves under at the beginning of the 2nd half, giving the French easy 22 access, alongside the quick impact of the French bench forwards who would come on around the same time.

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