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All Blacks v France II

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    BerniesCorner
    wrote on last edited by Duluth
    #1

    Don't repeat the mistake of 2024. DMac deserves a start at 10 and it's long overdue to give Love a start at 15.
    Proctor or QT at 13.

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      BerniesCorner
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      #2

      Please consign dinks and cross kicks to history.

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      • sparkyS Offline
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        Sparky's team to play the French in Wellington:

        1. De Groot

        2. Taylor

        3. Newell

        4. S Barrett (C)

        5. Holland

        6. Vaa'i

        7. A. Savea

        8. Lo-Willie

        9. Roigard

        10. DMac

        11. C. Clarke

        12. J. Barrett

        13. Q. Tupaea

        14. W. Jordan

        15. R. Love

        16. S. Taukei'aho

        17. O. Norris

        18. P. Tosi or T. Lomax

        19. S. Finau

        20. D. Kirifi

        21. C. Ratima

        22. B. Barrett

        23. T. Tavatavnawai

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          #4

          That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

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          • BonesB Bones

            That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

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            Mr Fish
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            @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

            That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

            Would they have?

            I don't the forwards had any issues to be honest. It's not like Williams and Lomax are considerably better scrum agers than the players who started either.

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            • BonesB Bones

              That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

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              @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

              That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

              ABs B team without our starting props, starting number 8, new midfield and back 3 combos……well that’s what I told my French mate

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              • M Mr Fish

                @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

                Would they have?

                I don't the forwards had any issues to be honest. It's not like Williams and Lomax are considerably better scrum agers than the players who started either.

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                @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France 2:

                @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

                Would they have?

                I don't the forwards had any issues to be honest. It's not like Williams and Lomax are considerably better scrum agers than the players who started either.

                They carry the ball more than EDG and Newell

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                  game_film
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                  #8

                  Don’t change a thing 1-23. Only thing that does need to be changed is decision making and ball security after a line break.

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                  • G game_film

                    Don’t change a thing 1-23. Only thing that does need to be changed is decision making and ball security after a line break.

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                    @game_film said in All Blacks v France 2:

                    Don’t change a thing 1-23. Only thing that does need to be changed is decision making and ball security after a line break.

                    Damn right. Sevu Reece can play through a concussion. Pine Tree would have.

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                      @game_film said in All Blacks v France 2:

                      Don’t change a thing 1-23. Only thing that does need to be changed is decision making and ball security after a line break.

                      Damn right. Sevu Reece can play through a concussion. Pine Tree would have.

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                      @MN5 Apologies, I missed the first 8 seconds.

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                      • G game_film

                        @MN5 Apologies, I missed the first 8 seconds.

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                        @game_film said in All Blacks v France 2:

                        @MN5 Apologies, I missed the first 8 seconds.

                        Sounds like something my other half would say

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                          AmberArmy
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                          1.De Groot
                          2.Taylor
                          3.Newell
                          4.S Barrett (C)
                          5.Holland
                          6.Vaa'i
                          7.A. Savea
                          8.Lio-Willie
                          9.Roigard
                          10.D Mac
                          11.T Tavatavnawai
                          12.J. Barrett
                          13.Q. Tupaea
                          14.R Ioane
                          15.W Jordan
                          16.S. Taukei'aho
                          17.O. Norris
                          18.P. Tosi or T. Lomax
                          19.D Papali’i
                          20.S Finau
                          21.N Hotham
                          22.B. Barrett
                          23.R Love

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                            brodean
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                            Though our defense was accurate it was weak. Zero dominant tackles from our forwards. Is that part of the plan or did we lack intent there?

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                              Why drop Barrett? Thought he went pretty bloody well - DMac on the other hand was rocks and diamonds.

                              I’d stick with the same team barring injuries (Lomax for Newell & Clarke for Reece). Proctor was poor, but one game is not a big enough sample size.

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                                Barrett’s passing in particular was really good. Am sure Will Jordan wants him to stay at 10.

                                Speaking of that jammy bastard, he must be getting high up on the try count now

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                  That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

                                  Would they have?

                                  I don't the forwards had any issues to be honest. It's not like Williams and Lomax are considerably better scrum agers than the players who started either.

                                  They carry the ball more than EDG and Newell

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                                  Mr Fish
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                                  #16

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                  @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                  That does raise one point - you'd like to think Williams and Lomax would have made a heck of a difference today.

                                  Would they have?

                                  I don't the forwards had any issues to be honest. It's not like Williams and Lomax are considerably better scrum agers than the players who started either.

                                  They carry the ball more than EDG and Newell

                                  Definitely - I'm not suggesting they're not better players. I just don't think they would've made that much of difference in that game. The All Blacks issues weren't that their forwards weren't carrying effectively enough.

                                  With a better kicking/high ball game, a tiny bit more accuracy at crucial moments or smarter defence, and NZ would've won at a canter (easier said than done, or course, but I don't think better carrying from the starting props would've fixed any of those issues).

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                                  • F frugby

                                    Why drop Barrett? Thought he went pretty bloody well - DMac on the other hand was rocks and diamonds.

                                    I’d stick with the same team barring injuries (Lomax for Newell & Clarke for Reece). Proctor was poor, but one game is not a big enough sample size.

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                                    @frugby said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                    Why drop Barrett? Thought he went pretty bloody well - DMac on the other hand was rocks and diamonds.

                                    I’d stick with the same team barring injuries (Lomax for Newell & Clarke for Reece). Proctor was poor, but one game is not a big enough sample size.

                                    He did go well, and yes, I agree, those are the only changes I'd make too.

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                                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                                      Barrett’s passing in particular was really good. Am sure Will Jordan wants him to stay at 10.

                                      Speaking of that jammy bastard, he must be getting high up on the try count now

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                                      @Kirwan said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                      Barrett’s passing in particular was really good. Am sure Will Jordan wants him to stay at 10.

                                      Speaking of that jammy bastard, he must be getting high up on the try count now

                                      His strike rate per test is nothing short of ridiculous and his class and calmness under pressure is extraordinary

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                                      • F frugby

                                        Why drop Barrett? Thought he went pretty bloody well - DMac on the other hand was rocks and diamonds.

                                        I’d stick with the same team barring injuries (Lomax for Newell & Clarke for Reece). Proctor was poor, but one game is not a big enough sample size.

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                                        nostrildamus
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                                        @frugby said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                        Why drop Barrett? Thought he went pretty bloody well - DMac on the other hand was rocks and diamonds.

                                        I’d stick with the same team barring injuries (Lomax for Newell & Clarke for Reece). Proctor was poor, but one game is not a big enough sample size.

                                        I'd like Beauden to draw tacklers more

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                                          #20

                                          This will be a much different game compared to yesterday

                                          Swirling mid winter Cake Tin as opposed to under the roof

                                          French ref as opposed to Nick Berry

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