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All Blacks v France II

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    Yeah, if they want Vaii to have time at 6, bring in Patty T.

    If it was accommodating Barrett - which is a bit of an issue - then bring in Finau to start, Pat T off the bench.

    Similarly, not sure we learn much with Dmac at 15, so if he’s to be the bench man, leave him there and bring in Clarke or Narawa.

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      One thing that was missing in the weekend was people clearing out properly at the rucks, be that for size or being Blackadderish (ineffective).

      If Dalton comes in at six, Jaconson at 8 and Patrick at Lock, at least that area will be clearned up.

      We need a bigger team, ending the game with Savea and Kirifi on at the same time = puke.

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        Given this opportunity, I wonder whether they move Ioane to 14.

        I wonder if he could be better there as he could be integrated from the blind through the centers.

        @Mauss can probably actually have a look at this, but to the extent that he passes, Rieko seems stronger passing and distributing from right to left (not really unsurprising), so for strike plays he could be an interesting option off the blind wing.

        I’ll admit to not having watched the game btw, but I’m not convinced about Rieko on the wing - he’s really not that good under the high ball, so arguably its better to leave him at 11 and see if it works out. Switching him around may not help him show whether he still has it or not.

        How many tests has Clarke had at 14? Narawa may be the safest and easiest change.

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          #124

          My Predicted 23:

          1. de Groot
          2. Taylor
          3. Newell
          4. Vaa'i
          5. Holland
          6. Jacobson
          7. Savea
          8. Lio-Willie
          9. Roigard
          10. Barrett
          11. Clarke
          12. J Barrett
          13. Proctor
          14. Ioane
          15. Jordan
          16. Taukei'aho
          17. Norris
          18. Tosi
          19. Tuipulotu
          20. Finau
          21. Ratima
          22. Tupaea
          23. McKenzie
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            My Predicted 23:

            1. de Groot
            2. Taylor
            3. Newell
            4. Vaa'i
            5. Holland
            6. Jacobson
            7. Savea
            8. Lio-Willie
            9. Roigard
            10. Barrett
            11. Clarke
            12. J Barrett
            13. Proctor
            14. Ioane
            15. Jordan
            16. Taukei'aho
            17. Norris
            18. Tosi
            19. Tuipulotu
            20. Finau
            21. Ratima
            22. Tupaea
            23. McKenzie
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            #125

            @frugby said in All Blacks v France 2:

            My Predicted 23:

            1. de Groot
            2. Taylor
            3. Newell
            4. Vaa'i
            5. Holland
            6. Jacobson
            7. Savea
            8. Lio-Willie
            9. Roigard
            10. Barrett
            11. Clarke
            12. J Barrett
            13. Proctor
            14. Ioane
            15. Jordan
            16. Taukei'aho
            17. Norris
            18. Tosi
            19. Tuipulotu
            20. Finau
            21. Ratima
            22. Tupaea
            23. McKenzie

            Close, I reckon Tuipulotu comes in for Barrett as a straight swap, Vaa'i stays at six, Kirifi on the bench and Jacobson misses out completely ( yep I reckon they will want to see more of DK especially at home )

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              #126

              Anyone got the scoop for this week?

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                #127

                I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

                3rd test, have at it.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  Anyone got the scoop for this week?

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                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                  Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                  Yep, check my team. 100% correct. Bet the house on it.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    Anyone got the scoop for this week?

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                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                    Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                    Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

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                    • B brodean

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                      Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                      Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

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                      #130

                      @brodean said in All Blacks v France 2:

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                      Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                      Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

                      why dont we have a downvote button!

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

                        3rd test, have at it.

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                        @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                        I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

                        3rd test, have at it.

                        Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @brodean said in All Blacks v France 2:

                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                          Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                          Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

                          why dont we have a downvote button!

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                          @Kiwiwomble

                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France 2:

                          @brodean said in All Blacks v France 2:

                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                          Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                          Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

                          why dont we have a downvote button!

                          Don't shoot the messenger!

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                          • B brodean

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                            Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                            Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

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                            Mr Fish
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                            @brodean said in All Blacks v France 2:

                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                            Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                            Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

                            Not sure if a joke or not...

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                              I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

                              3rd test, have at it.

                              Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

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                              MN5
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                              @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                              I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

                              3rd test, have at it.

                              Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

                              No. Chopping and changing won't do him any good. Let's keep him at six. He's finally become a force at test level and there aren't exactly other options beating down the door at blindside.

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                                Yep, check my team. 100% correct. Bet the house on it.

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                                #135

                                @MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                                Yep, check my team. 100% correct. Bet the house on it.

                                Is that just what you think is going to happen or have you got a source?

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                                  @brodean said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                  Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                                  Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

                                  Not sure if a joke or not...

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                                  Canes4life
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                                  #136

                                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                  @brodean said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                  Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                                  Rieko back to center. Ardie back to No 8. Vaa'i back to lock.

                                  Not sure if a joke or not...

                                  Surely a joke.

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                    Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                                    Yep, check my team. 100% correct. Bet the house on it.

                                    Is that just what you think is going to happen or have you got a source?

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                                    MN5
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                                    #137

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                    Anyone got the scoop for this week?

                                    Yep, check my team. 100% correct. Bet the house on it.

                                    Is that just what you think is going to happen or have you got a source?

                                    No, I like to call it the "broken clock" analogy.

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                      I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

                                      3rd test, have at it.

                                      Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

                                      No. Chopping and changing won't do him any good. Let's keep him at six. He's finally become a force at test level and there aren't exactly other options beating down the door at blindside.

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                                      Kiwiwomble
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                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                      I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

                                      3rd test, have at it.

                                      Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

                                      No. Chopping and changing won't do him any good. Let's keep him at six. He's finally become a force at test level and there aren't exactly other options beating down the door at blindside.

                                      i feel like im being gaslit...there seems to be a continuous discussion about things like 12 and 13 are wildly different positions and very few people can learn both....but also lets move people around from one game to another to make sure theyre versatile

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                        I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

                                        3rd test, have at it.

                                        Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

                                        No. Chopping and changing won't do him any good. Let's keep him at six. He's finally become a force at test level and there aren't exactly other options beating down the door at blindside.

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                                        Bones
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                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                        He's finally become a force at test level

                                        You almost had me until this.

                                        Any idea what position he's a force at?

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                          I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

                                          3rd test, have at it.

                                          Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

                                          No. Chopping and changing won't do him any good. Let's keep him at six. He's finally become a force at test level and there aren't exactly other options beating down the door at blindside.

                                          i feel like im being gaslit...there seems to be a continuous discussion about things like 12 and 13 are wildly different positions and very few people can learn both....but also lets move people around from one game to another to make sure theyre versatile

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                                          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks v France 2:

                                          I will find it very frustrating if there's anything but last week's group with injury changes.

                                          3rd test, have at it.

                                          Actually, I'd be happy to see Vaai go back to lock if Ah Kuoi goes to blindside, but it wouldn't make much sense when you can just throw PT in at lock.

                                          No. Chopping and changing won't do him any good. Let's keep him at six. He's finally become a force at test level and there aren't exactly other options beating down the door at blindside.

                                          i feel like im being gaslit...there seems to be a continuous discussion about things like 12 and 13 are wildly different positions and very few people can learn both....but also lets move people around from one game to another to make sure theyre versatile

                                          They are a bit different. Some players have the physical attributes, skills and temperament to play both and some don't. I don't think there are many players who are equally good at both. Generally a player will be better at 12 or better at 13.

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