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Springboks v Italy II

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  • boobooB booboo

    @canefan said in Springboks v Italy II:

    A smart coach would point the cynicism of the play to whoever runs the refs, to WR, and go on record in the media to pressure refs to see it their way in future. Even if you weren't involved in the game

    I suspect (hope) there'll be clarification at WR level.

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    @booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:

    @canefan said in Springboks v Italy II:

    A smart coach would point the cynicism of the play to whoever runs the refs, to WR, and go on record in the media to pressure refs to see it their way in future. Even if you weren't involved in the game

    I suspect (hope) there'll be clarification at WR level.

    At least they didn't try that shit on us

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    • sparkyS sparky

      @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

      The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

      SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

      Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005

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      @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

      @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

      The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

      SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

      Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005

      Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

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        @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

        @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

        The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

        SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

        Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005

        Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

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        @African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:

        @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

        @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

        The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

        SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

        Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005

        Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

        Opposed situational training?

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        • A African Monkey

          @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

          @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

          The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

          SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

          Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005

          Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

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          @African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:

          @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

          @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

          The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

          SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

          Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005

          Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

          Innovation

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          • PNP PN

            @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

            @OomPB jumping into the tackle and obstruction.

            A case of rejecting reality, to substitute your own Bones. The Copium is real.

            Law 9.26
            In open play, any player may lift or support a player from the same team. Players who support or lift a teammate must lower the player to the ground safely as soon as the ball is won by a player of either team.

            https://passport.world.rugby/laws-of-the-game/laws-by-number/9-foul-play/

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            @PN said in Springboks v Italy II:

            The Copium is real.

            Lace bugs are real? No way!

            Glad I got at least one bite, surprised anyone was sensitive enough to take that rancid bait seriously.

            By the way, might wanna check the ABs v France score, I didn't suffer a loss 😉

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            • boobooB booboo

              @African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:

              @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

              @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

              The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

              SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

              Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005

              Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

              Innovation

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              African Monkey
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              @booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:

              @African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:

              @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

              @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

              The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

              SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

              Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005

              Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

              Innovation

              Yep, fair play. Genius stuff that.

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              • boobooB booboo

                @stodders said in Springboks v Italy II:

                @booboo sanction at a kick off is a scrum to the opposition. Rassie will have done his homework.

                It isn’t a penalty or a FK. Look how fast the SA props arrived for the scrum. They knew.

                If the ruling under 12.5(a) was correct I'd agree.

                But because they deliberately infringed 9.7(a) should apply.

                UNFAIR PLAY
                7. A player must not:
                a. Intentionally infringe any law of the game.
                b. Intentionally knock, place, push or throw the ball with arm or hand from
                the playing area.
                c. Do anything that may lead the match officials to consider that an opponent has committed an infringement.
                Sanction: Penalty

                Agree about the FK though: I was quoting @PN but am not sure where he got his law from(12.8(d) is quick throw)? Is that maybe a SVNS variant?

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                @booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:

                But because they deliberately infringed 9.7(a) should apply.

                That was exactly my thoughts, same deal as intentional knock on. Except quite a bit worse as it's so deliberate and obviously cooked up by the coach with the whole team involved.

                Gives Rassie something to cry about when they do it next time and get penalised.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:

                  But because they deliberately infringed 9.7(a) should apply.

                  That was exactly my thoughts, same deal as intentional knock on. Except quite a bit worse as it's so deliberate and obviously cooked up by the coach with the whole team involved.

                  Gives Rassie something to cry about when they do it next time and get penalised.

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                  @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

                  Gives Rassie something to cry about when they do it next time and get penalised.

                  Exactly that thought occurred.

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                    As I mentioned above, rulings and interpretations are constantly being reviewed and clarified.

                    I fully expected the appropriate branches of the WR bureaucracy to clarify the fuck out of that one.

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                    • A African Monkey

                      @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

                      @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

                      The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

                      SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

                      Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005

                      Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

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                      @African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:

                      @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

                      @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

                      The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

                      SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

                      Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005

                      Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

                      What they actually achieved was giving up a free kick from the scrum and thus conceding both territory and possession compared to contesting in the Italian half. It’s brilliant stuff….

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                      • SnowyS Snowy

                        @African-Monkey said in Springboks v Italy II:

                        @sparky said in Springboks v Italy II:

                        @Bones said in Springboks v Italy II:

                        The fuck? Surely intentionally doing that is a penalty?

                        SA purposefully ran in front of the kicker at kick off and only kicked it like 2m straight to the guy in front, to force a scrum.

                        Here's video of the incident: https://twitter.com/jaredwright17/status/1944054449338823005

                        Seriously, what the fuck was the point or that anyway? Clowns.

                        What they actually achieved was giving up a free kick from the scrum and thus conceding both territory and possession compared to contesting in the Italian half. It’s brilliant stuff….

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                        @Snowy I assume they were.absolutely dealing to thier scrum, otherwise I can't see why.

                        Maybe Rassie thinks it is a.dumb rule and thought let's highlight it so WR change it now we used it....

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Snowy I assume they were.absolutely dealing to thier scrum, otherwise I can't see why.

                          Maybe Rassie thinks it is a.dumb rule and thought let's highlight it so WR change it now we used it....

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                          @taniwharugby said in Springboks v Italy II:

                          @Snowy I assume they were.absolutely dealing to thier scrum, otherwise I can't see why.

                          Maybe Rassie thinks it is a.dumb rule and thought let's highlight it so WR change it now we used it....

                          No doubt they believed their own press, but they clearly don’t watch enough rugby to know that even a dominant scrum is no guarantee of possession.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @Snowy I assume they were.absolutely dealing to thier scrum, otherwise I can't see why.

                            Maybe Rassie thinks it is a.dumb rule and thought let's highlight it so WR change it now we used it....

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                            @taniwharugby said in Springboks v Italy II:

                            @Snowy I assume they were.absolutely dealing to thier scrum, otherwise I can't see why.

                            Maybe Rassie thinks it is a.dumb rule and thought let's highlight it so WR change it now we used it....

                            It was the match kick off! Didn't see the game last week, so assumed they must have been absolutely annihilating the Italian scrum in that game.

                            It was pretty funny when you looked back at how pumped the players and Comms were, only to go nowhere and concede a FK.

                            The way they were carrying on you would've thought the Italian scrum was going to turn to dust.

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                              Rassie coaching staff include an international ref. Paul Roos u19B coach surely would ticked all the boxes before trying it.

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                                Rassie coaching staff include an international ref. Paul Roos u19B coach surely would ticked all the boxes before trying it.

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                                @OomPB surely.

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                                • OomPBO OomPB

                                  Rassie coaching staff include an international ref. Paul Roos u19B coach surely would ticked all the boxes before trying it.

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                                  @OomPB said in Springboks v Italy II:

                                  Rassie coaching staff include an international ref. Paul Roos u19B coach surely would ticked all the boxes before trying it.

                                  I know the South African translation of the WR Law consists solely and entirely of "Whatever Rassie says". But if you can find the clause in the law book that nullifies Law 9 FOUL PLAY, UNFAIR PLAY 7. A player must not a. Intentionally infringe any law of the game I'd be appreciative.

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                                    BTW have no issue with the "lineout" move. Just seems a little unnecessary to me.

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      BTW have no issue with the "lineout" move. Just seems a little unnecessary to me.

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                                      @booboo said in Springboks v Italy II:

                                      BTW have no issue with the "lineout" move. Just seems a little unnecessary to me.

                                      Yeah I was just talking shit on that one, no issue, bloody good for a laugh though.

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                                        Rassie just showing the world how "innovative" he is. A GENIUS I am told.

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                                          I am not sure why the All Blacks are bothering planning to pick a team for the games against the Springboks in September. Rassie is such a bold and innovative GENIUS that he is certain to win.

                                          What a very clever Rassie that Rassie man is!

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