All Blacks v Argentina II

[mariner4life]

@mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

Ardie is world class

at one thing. He has serious flaws in other areas. And they actually hurt the team. And that is @antipodean 's point.

I probably wouldn't dump him but you have to be very careful who you partner him with.

[SBW1]

Is Christie being dropped?

[antipodean]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

@mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

Ardie is world class

at one thing. He has serious flaws in other areas. And they actually hurt the team. And that is @antipodean 's point.

I probably wouldn't dump him but you have to be very careful who you partner him with.

I wouldn't dump him given his undoubted talents, but he'd be on the bench ready to wreak havoc after the big nasties have softened and exhausted their opponents.

[voodoo]

I'm not sure anyone here wants him dumped. Some want him on the bench. Most want him at 7.

90% of us just want him paired with the right partners (i.e. dudes who like to hit rucks effectively)

[frugby]

Thinking ahead to the Boks, going to need a big physical bench, but equally they will want some experience.

Expecting to see Sititi in for Kirifi, with Savea back to 7, but the makeup of the bench is fascinating.

Parker and Lakai would be my pick for this week, but that is awfully green for the Boks.

The alternatives are Kirifi & Finau. Not sure they fill me with a lot of confidence.

For me, let Parker loose this week, and then all going well he lines up to come on for the last 20 for one of the locks, with Vaa’i shifting to lock, and Jacobson is there to replace Sititi for the closing stages.

[No Quarter]

@antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

@mencey said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

Ardie is world class

at one thing. He has serious flaws in other areas. And they actually hurt the team. And that is @antipodean 's point.

I probably wouldn't dump him but you have to be very careful who you partner him with.

I wouldn't dump him given his undoubted talents, but he'd be on the bench ready to wreak havoc after the big nasties have softened and exhausted their opponents.

I've long wanted Savea on the bench as impact. A Savea - Sititi one-two punch at 8 would cause teams a lot of problems. Either of them coming off the bench for 30 to wreck havoc would be fun to watch.

For mine, I'd like our loosies to be:
6 - Vaa'i, Finau
7 - Dalton, Lakai
8 - Savea, Sititi

I don't really like Savea at 7 in the modern game, your 7 needs to do a lot more tackling and be a physical presence at the ruck, which Savea is not. 8 has always suited his skillset a lot better as it's easier to utilise his running game, just need to pair him with a couple of blokes that enjoy the dirty work and win the collisions more often.

[Bovidae]

It might have been mentioned but I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor is rested for this game so he can play his 100th test in NZ.

[ShaquilleOatmeal]

@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

It might have been mentioned but I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor is rested for this game so he can play his 100th test in NZ.

Is that something that's happened before - resting a player so they can reach a milestone at a particular location?

[Bovidae]

@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

It might have been mentioned but I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor is rested for this game so he can play his 100th test in NZ.

Is that something that's happened before - resting a player so they can reach a milestone at a particular location?

Cheaper than flying all the family to Arg.

Savea is on track to play his 100th test at Eden Park too.

[Frank]

@SBW1 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

Is Christie being dropped?

From a great height

[Frank]

Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

[SBW1]

CLW has done very little wrong, pretty sure he is next cab off the rank should there be anymore injuries.

[Dan54]

@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

[Frank]

@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350230380/highlanders-bulldozer-timoci-tavatavanawai-reveals-test-goal

The powerful 26-year-old known as Big Jim spent two fruitful years with Moana Pasifika, putting fear into the hearts of Super Rugby defenders with his robust running style.

[canefan]

@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Isn't DMac, DMac?

[Bovidae]

@canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

Isn't DMac, DMac?

Only to fans. The nicknames I've heard players/coaches use are Damo and Slim.

[Dan54]

@canefan said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

@Dan54 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

Tupaea is the obvious replacement for ALB.
Big Jim hasn't earned anything internationally except a couple of nicknames

Yep and ir you talking about Tavatavanawai, his nic is Jim the Difference, DMac has always been Big Jim, :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Isn't DMac, DMac?

Anyone who has watched NZ rugby for more than a year or so should know that DMac's nic was always Big Jim, it's what players used to call him in interviews etc. I think it a Chiefs one for quite sometime. I have never heard Tavatanawai called Big Jim, but we see it on net , but comes from hiw nic at Ta$man where he was Jim the Difference. I know that's why some called him Big Jim, because it was easier etc and probably just changed from the Ta$man one. (and I called him Big Jim by mistake on an Auusie rugby site, and Aussies all jumped on me reminding me who the original Big Jim is)

[Kiwiwomble]

i feel like im being gas lit, ive never heard DMac called Jim/big jim....but Tavatavanawai had a thing on the Highlanders socials when he was named captain saying Jim/Big Jim was his nickname

[canefan]

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

i feel like im being gas lit, ive never heard DMac called Jim/big jim....but Tavatavanawai had a thing on the Highlanders socials when he was named captain saying Jim/Big Jim was his nickname

If Dan wasn't so straight up I'd assume he was taking the piss

[Bones]

@Kiwiwomble I think I have some vague memory of hearing/seeing it years ago, but definitely didn't stick and never heard or seen it since until now.... after half a year of TT being referred to as Jim.