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All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I

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    What the Wallabies did well was heads up rugby with short passes letting the ball create space - the unstructured stuff we used to do. That’s why they looked more dangerous running. Now every thing we do is a pod, a box kick, a cross field kick. Our players were turning in and running into contact - Va’ai and Tupaea both bombed tries. Attacking on the line we just charged straight and got tackled and held up. It’s not like we can’t play that game, and we need it to to beat the Boks. It’s just we don’t seem to have the Coach that can get that from this team.

    One area I thought we would do better at was scrum. Wallabies held their own. Hence why we were given a lesson by Boks. What was a strength is now just a pass mark. Needs work. Williams should start.

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    • K kev

      What the Wallabies did well was heads up rugby with short passes letting the ball create space - the unstructured stuff we used to do. That’s why they looked more dangerous running. Now every thing we do is a pod, a box kick, a cross field kick. Our players were turning in and running into contact - Va’ai and Tupaea both bombed tries. Attacking on the line we just charged straight and got tackled and held up. It’s not like we can’t play that game, and we need it to to beat the Boks. It’s just we don’t seem to have the Coach that can get that from this team.

      One area I thought we would do better at was scrum. Wallabies held their own. Hence why we were given a lesson by Boks. What was a strength is now just a pass mark. Needs work. Williams should start.

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      @kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

      What the Wallabies did well was heads up rugby with short passes letting the ball create space - the unstructured stuff we used to do. That’s why they looked more dangerous running. Now every thing we do is a pod, a box kick, a cross field kick. Our players were turning in and running into contact - Va’ai and Tupaea both bombed tries. Attacking on the line we just charged straight and got tackled and held up. It’s not like we can’t play that game, and we need it to to beat the Boks. It’s just we don’t seem to have the Coach that can get that from this team.

      One area I thought we would do better at was scrum. Wallabies held their own. Hence why we were given a lesson by Boks. What was a strength is now just a pass mark. Needs work. Williams should start.

      Wallabies won 100% of their scrums against the Boks in both of test matches. There was only one scrum penalty in the second test against the Wallabies.

      Wallabies scrum is excellent in my view. They pack far more tighter and have good sized locks with a bit more about them

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      • K kev

        What the Wallabies did well was heads up rugby with short passes letting the ball create space - the unstructured stuff we used to do. That’s why they looked more dangerous running. Now every thing we do is a pod, a box kick, a cross field kick. Our players were turning in and running into contact - Va’ai and Tupaea both bombed tries. Attacking on the line we just charged straight and got tackled and held up. It’s not like we can’t play that game, and we need it to to beat the Boks. It’s just we don’t seem to have the Coach that can get that from this team.

        One area I thought we would do better at was scrum. Wallabies held their own. Hence why we were given a lesson by Boks. What was a strength is now just a pass mark. Needs work. Williams should start.

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        @kev Williams should start?? So you’re saying the problem is Ethan De Groot?! He’s been the only consistent one at Scrum all season!!

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          @kev Williams should start?? So you’re saying the problem is Ethan De Groot?! He’s been the only consistent one at Scrum all season!!

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          @upthelanders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

          @kev Williams should start?? So you’re saying the problem is Ethan De Groot?! He’s been the only consistent one at Scrum all season!!

          De Groot has been folded in numerous times this series and was one of the poorer props in super rugby. Williams is a far better scrummed and better around the park

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          • J Jet

            Need to take the goal kicking duties off Beaudy long term too.

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            @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

            Need to take the goal kicking duties off Beaudy long term too.

            If Jordie or DMac are NOT on the field, sure, fine, go with Beaudie.

            By why the fuck do we leave points out there by insisting on using an inferior goal kicker?

            Why?

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              Vaa'i giving away too many ruck penalties.

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              @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

              Vaa'i giving away too many ruck penalties.

              Yeah. I'm a fanboi, but he reverted a bit tonight

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              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                Vaa'i giving away too many ruck penalties.

                Par for course

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                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                Vaa'i giving away too many ruck penalties.

                Par for course

                If you go back 2 years ... yeah.

                Not so much the last 12 months

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                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                  @kev said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  What the Wallabies did well was heads up rugby with short passes letting the ball create space - the unstructured stuff we used to do. That’s why they looked more dangerous running. Now every thing we do is a pod, a box kick, a cross field kick. Our players were turning in and running into contact - Va’ai and Tupaea both bombed tries. Attacking on the line we just charged straight and got tackled and held up. It’s not like we can’t play that game, and we need it to to beat the Boks. It’s just we don’t seem to have the Coach that can get that from this team.

                  One area I thought we would do better at was scrum. Wallabies held their own. Hence why we were given a lesson by Boks. What was a strength is now just a pass mark. Needs work. Williams should start.

                  Wallabies won 100% of their scrums against the Boks in both of test matches. There was only one scrum penalty in the second test against the Wallabies.

                  Wallabies scrum is excellent in my view. They pack far more tighter and have good sized locks with a bit more about them

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                  Wallabies won 100% of their scrums against the Boks in both of test matches. There was only one scrum penalty in the second test against the Wallabies.

                  You'd almost think Australia had a decent scrum coach....

                  Thank heavens with our great depth of coaching talent, we didn't feel the need to retain him

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                  • T The Docter

                    Aussie commentators only talked my about how good their players are

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                    @The-Docter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                    Aussie commentators only talked my about how good their players are

                    Welcome to Straya

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                      Also a sub plot that no one’s brought up, Tim Donnelly has done a seriosuly good job with those Wallabies forwards. Another coach lost overseas

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                      • J jimmyb

                        @upthelanders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                        @kev Williams should start?? So you’re saying the problem is Ethan De Groot?! He’s been the only consistent one at Scrum all season!!

                        De Groot has been folded in numerous times this series and was one of the poorer props in super rugby. Williams is a far better scrummed and better around the park

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                        @jimmyb Yeah he battled with Neck issues for the first half of that Super Season (shouldn’t of been playing) even admitted it himself on an interview.

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                        • J Jet

                          Our back row is all fur coat and no knickers.

                          Sititi and Savea anonymous.

                          Compare to Read and McCaw.

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                          @Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                          Compare to Read and McCaw.

                          Is that really fair?

                          What 7 and 8 ever compares to Read and McCaw?

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                          • T tubbyj

                            One of the worst loose forward trios the All Blacks have ever put out

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                            @tubbyj said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                            One of the worst loose forward trios the All Blacks have ever put out

                            Really?

                            I mean Really?

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                            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                              I reckon if this goes down to the wire , we will be the ones under the pump , Aussies will have nothing to lose

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                              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                              I reckon if this goes down to the wire , we will be the ones under the pump , Aussies will have nothing to lose

                              Yep.

                              We were.

                              We won.

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                                @jimmyb Yeah he battled with Neck issues for the first half of that Super Season (shouldn’t of been playing) even admitted it himself on an interview.

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                                @upthelanders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                @jimmyb Yeah he battled with Neck issues for the first half of that Super Season (shouldn’t of been playing) even admitted it himself on an interview.

                                That’s all well and good but he’s been poor this championship too. Hasn’t reached his top form that he had in early 2019. Williams on the other hand has been excellent

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                                • R reprobate

                                  Beauden is 34 and a (should be outside) back whose effectiveness has always had a lot to do with acceleration and pace.
                                  Scott is a 31 year old lock, he may well still have plenty to offer.

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                                  @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                  Beauden is 34 and a (should be outside) back whose effectiveness has always had a lot to do with acceleration and pace.
                                  Scott is a 31 year old lock, he may well still have plenty to offer.

                                  I agree, I'd like to see them relieve him of the captaincy with a view to him taking some time out to get his body and mind right. We really miss peak SB, especially close in, Holland and Vaa'i still have a lot to learn when it comes to both accuracy of clean outs and defense around the ruck.

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    Wallabies won 100% of their scrums against the Boks in both of test matches. There was only one scrum penalty in the second test against the Wallabies.

                                    You'd almost think Australia had a decent scrum coach....

                                    Thank heavens with our great depth of coaching talent, we didn't feel the need to retain him

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                    Wallabies won 100% of their scrums against the Boks in both of test matches. There was only one scrum penalty in the second test against the Wallabies.

                                    You'd almost think Australia had a decent scrum coach....

                                    Thank heavens with our great depth of coaching talent, we didn't feel the need to retain him

                                    Yeah, pretty jarring to watch Mike speaking at HT

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                                    • R reprobate

                                      The reffing was random as fuck, and to be honest I reckon he fucked the aussies pretty badly.

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                                      @reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                      The reffing was random as fuck, and to be honest I reckon he fucked the aussies pretty badly.

                                      I think the part that annoyed me most about the non-card and card (whether the calls were right or not) was that as an AB fan I really wanted to see a big improvement in the final quarter, but the cards gave us an easy ride right after the Wallabies had got back to within 2. I think there was some improvement, we did push up field after their try which was good to see, but their YC basically put the game to bed. So hard to win when a man down at that level when it's all about the fine margins.

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                                      • J jimmyb

                                        Also a sub plot that no one’s brought up, Tim Donnelly has done a seriosuly good job with those Wallabies forwards. Another coach lost overseas

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                                        @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                        Also a sub plot that no one’s brought up, Tim Donnelly has done a seriosuly good job with those Wallabies forwards. Another coach lost overseas

                                        Now he has overseas experience he can apply for an All Blacks coaching position 😉

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                                        • M MadGav

                                          @Chris you enjoyed 39 missed tackles by the aussies ?

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                                          @MadGav said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:

                                          @Chris you enjoyed 39 missed tackles by the aussies ?

                                          Always

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