All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I
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For me Holland has to start, yes, he needs to work on defence and few other areas but his lineout work is the best in the team. Set piece is everything these days and having a very reliable jumper is key and Holland gives the team that. Good coaches should be able to help him round out his game.
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
It was a sad vista to see him walk off, but you'd have to think/hope that was Beauden Barretts last game in black.
He does.
Better players than him have had more ignominious ( nice to be able to bust out this word on a Sunday morning ) dumpings than him.
Razor needs to make the call.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
It was a sad vista to see him walk off, but you'd have to think/hope that was Beauden Barretts last game in black.
He does.
Better players than him have had more ignominious ( nice to be able to bust out this word on a Sunday morning ) dumpings than him.
Razor needs to make the call.
Razor hasn't shown those type of kahunas as AB coach.
May claim Beauden injury will prevent him from being picked so no public dropping. And slide him out that way.... -
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Past horizontal. No penalty. Ok Marius
Law clarification please.
Thought it was ok if tacklers brought him back horizontal.
Thanks in anticipation.
JB didn't bring him back to horizontal. The only thing that stopped JOCs head slamming into the ground was JOCs hand..
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Could have been very different
But it wasn't
Come on, do better than that.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
That's the one guaranteed win.
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@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I noticed Holland was the ABs top tackler. What about his defence do you have some issues with?
I think a few times he went wrong side of the ruck when defending close to the line or didn't see the space, pretty minor really but just comes with experience.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
Upvote cos you're a great bloke.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I noticed Holland was the ABs top tackler. What about his defence do you have some issues with?
I think a few times he went wrong side of the ruck when defending close to the line or didn't see the space, pretty minor really but just comes with experience.
I've noticed that but I think the issue is more around the fact that there have rarely been loose forwards defending around the ruck for months. In the past it guys like Kaino, Ioane, and even Frizell would be patrolling that area when the ball got close to the line.
I think Finau gave away a couple of penalties in that area in the Super Rugby final but at least he was where he was supposed to be and trying. He was the only one putting it on the line out of the Chiefs loose forwards in that final. Vaa'i also is not around there enough.
The bottom line is that Holland has made more tackles than any other All Black this season and he's also top equal for dominant tackles so I think its more a problem with others not doing enough and being where they should be.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
Upvote cos you're a great bloke.
If Wales win, Robertson is gone. No ifs or buts. This isn’t Gatland’s grand slam winners.
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@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
Upvote cos you're a great bloke.
If Wales win, Robertson is gone. No ifs or buts. This isn’t Gatland’s grand slam winners.
How bout if Scotland win ?
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@brodean works both ways though doesn't it...a tackled player can turn in a way thay makes it more dangerous for.themselves and therefore the sanction on the tackler harsher, in this case, JOC self preservation saw him put his arm out saving himself from possible injury and at the same.time, saving JB from any sort of penalty.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@brodean works both ways though doesn't it...a tackled player can turn in a way thay makes it more dangerous for.themselves and therefore the sanction on the tackler harsher, in this case, JOC self preservation saw him put his arm out saving himself from possible injury and at the same.time, saving JB from any sort of penalty.
An offence can't be mitigated by the victim successfully saving themselves injury.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
Upvote cos you're a great bloke.
If Wales win, Robertson is gone. No ifs or buts. This isn’t Gatland’s grand slam winners.
How bout if Scotland win ?
Hmmmmm. Tough one.
Scotland are at a similar level to Argentina IMO. Is it acceptable for the ABs to lose to Argentina?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@brodean but it does.
Not according to any rugby law around mitigation and penalties.
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@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
Upvote cos you're a great bloke.
If Wales win, Robertson is gone. No ifs or buts. This isn’t Gatland’s grand slam winners.
How bout if Scotland win ?
Hmmmmm. Tough one.
Scotland are at a similar level to Argentina IMO. Is it acceptable for the ABs to lose to Argentina?
Apparently so
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@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Jet said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
We are a dreadful Rugby team.
Razor has to go.
I suspect he now stays until the RWC.
But we need a bit of a clear out of the assistants and to get coaches with more international experience.
2+ defeats incoming on EOYT.
Please let it be Wales God
Upvote cos you're a great bloke.
If Wales win, Robertson is gone. No ifs or buts. This isn’t Gatland’s grand slam winners.
How bout if Scotland win ?
Hmmmmm. Tough one.
Scotland are at a similar level to Argentina IMO. Is it acceptable for the ABs to lose to Argentina?
How many RWC semi's has Scotland made compared to Argentina? They are simply not of the same pedigree when Argentina puts their top team out.
