Ashes 2025/6
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Fucken hell i have a ticket for day 3.......
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Disgraceful cricket from both sides.
Yes, spicy wicket obviously but thr shot selections were appalling.
As a bowler I love this, but...
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I wish Ollie Robinson was playing. That guy was great value in the 2023 Ashes on and off the field.
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@Virgil said in Ashes 2025/6:
Just watched the highlights, wickets are almost a perfect split of great aggressive fast bowling and utterly stupid shot selection. Getting caught on the boundary day 1 of a test match is quite the thing..
Especially as they're so short
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@MN5 There's been 74 Ashes series played since 1882.
Eight of that team played this century and in the past 14 series. It's really picking a team from the last 30 years plus Bradman, Lillee and Botham.
Beyond those three and, probably Warnie, I'm not sure anyone is locked in, though there's probably two or three would get in once you started doing a proper comparison with the old-timers.
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@Chris-B said in Ashes 2025/6:
@MN5 There's been 74 Ashes series played since 1882.
Eight of that team played this century and in the past 14 series. It's really picking a team from the last 30 years plus Bradman, Lillee and Botham.
Beyond those three and, probably Warnie, I'm not sure anyone is locked in, though there's probably two or three would get in once you started doing a proper comparison with the old-timers.
Definite recency bias.
He certainly loves his all rounders and has somehow shoehorned three of them in there, all have had huge Ashes moments ( Beefys being the most memorable ) but also some pretty dud series.
Adam Gilchrist wouldn't be happy batting behind them, also how does Joe Root get in this team based on Ashes history ?
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Stokes again proving the man for the big moment.
A year or two back he was barely bowling at all and 230 wickets in 115 tests is hardly frontline stuff overall but taking the situation by the scruff of the neck and snaring five is pretty inspirational ( helped by some bloody reckless batting to be fair )
I reckon Australia should declare overnight to get things moving even faster !
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@MN5 Yeah - very hard to see how all those allrounders get in ahead of many of the best fast bowlers of all time.
I doubt any of Vaughan, Root or KP would make a proper alltime team. Root's lack of a century in Oz is an asterisk in the context of his overall career, but a glaring miss in the light of Ashes history.
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@Chris-B said in Ashes 2025/6:
@MN5 Yeah - very hard to see how all those allrounders get in ahead of many of the best fast bowlers of all time.
I doubt any of Vaughan, Root or KP would make a proper alltime team. Root's lack of a century in Oz is an asterisk in the context of his overall career, but a glaring miss in the light of Ashes history.
Pietersen had what I'd consider a very, very good career but to towards the end tailed off a bit and probably falls short of ATG standard. Awesome to watch though ( one of my favourite ever ) and some memorable Ashes battles.
Vaughan would be behind Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hutton, Boycott, Gooch and other old timers.
Root probably would make an ATG team but the record against Australia is something he would want to rectify.
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@Virgil said in Ashes 2025/6:
Just watched the highlights, wickets are almost a perfect split of great aggressive fast bowling and utterly stupid shot selection. Getting caught on the boundary day 1 of a test match is quite the thing..
Is Geoff Boycott still compos mentis?
He would have been furious watching this! Marnus, Smith - maybe Stokes and Green the only guys looking like they were trying to dig in.
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@Chris-B said in Ashes 2025/6:
@Virgil said in Ashes 2025/6:
Just watched the highlights, wickets are almost a perfect split of great aggressive fast bowling and utterly stupid shot selection. Getting caught on the boundary day 1 of a test match is quite the thing..
Is Geoff Boycott still compos mentis?
He would have been furious watching this! Marnus, Smith - maybe Stokes and Green the only guys looking like they were trying to dig in.
Boycott is quite a strange guy by most accounts. Seems to have played for his own stats far more than for the good of the team.
I have a feeling he wouldn't have a place in this current England team.
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@MN5 said in Ashes 2025/6:
That Khawaja not being able to open situation was weird. Is this some sort of new rule ? I thought guys could saunter off an on as they pleased assuming the 12th man is ready to fill in.
If you're off for more than about 8 minutes, you have to be back on the field for at least that long before you can bat in the top 6.
It's an old rule. England back in '05 used to push it hard by taking bowlers off at the end of their spells to freshen up. Pushing th eletter, if not the spirit of the rules/laws ... and gives you this type of outcome:
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@MN5 said in Ashes 2025/6:
That Khawaja not being able to open situation was weird. Is this some sort of new rule ? I thought guys could saunter off an on as they pleased assuming the 12th man is ready to fill in.
Story is khawaja injured his back due to playing golf the day before. Because he was off the field for so long it meant he had to stand down for a period before being able to bat. Which lead to the new guy facing archer in the first over. For which he only lasted a couple of balls. And it meant Smith coming in at 3 and so on
Hardly a great look -
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@Virgil said in Ashes 2025/6:
@MN5 said in Ashes 2025/6:
That Khawaja not being able to open situation was weird. Is this some sort of new rule ? I thought guys could saunter off an on as they pleased assuming the 12th man is ready to fill in.
Story is khawaja injured his back due to playing golf the day before. Because he was off the field for so long it meant he had to stand down for a period before being able to bat. Which lead to the new guy facing archer in the first over. For which he only lasted a couple of balls. And it meant Smith coming in at 3 and so on
Hardly a great lookSeems really amateur hour and completely fucked their order ( not that I think it made a huge amount of difference in the final wash up )
Reminds me of this ( thanks cricinfo )
"For Richard Hadlee, the Bangalore Test should have been memorable for entirely different reasons. His first-innings haul of 5 for 65 carried him clear of Ian Botham at the top of the world Test wickets table, but he did not feature in the second innings, after he and a number of his team-mates were hacked down by a violent stomach bug on the rest day of the Test. As India batted themselves into a match-winning position, an SOS was sent up to the TV commentary box where the former New Zealand captain, Jeremy Coney, was called out of his 18-month retirement along with his fellow journalist, Ken Nicholson, to act as substitute fielders"
England are going to be batting REALLY early on day 2. Welcome to modern test cricket.
