Poll: Best AB coach - professional era
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
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Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
@Catogrande Simon Barnes. The bird-watching guy.
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@mohikamo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
except his pass was pretty garbage by Test standards
Haha.
It wasn't that bad. But i'll concede it wasn't up to the very, very high standards of the rest of his game.
Very strong; remember him trying to put a bit of hit on a huge SA forward and getting squashed, quite comical.
All opponents had a stop Going plan.As for Edwards.
The ABs never bothered having a stop Edwards plan.
I know I watched him in quite a few games, but I dont actually have any recall of him, which you'd think I would, for the greatest halfback of all time . . . yeah right.Except for one game tho, but that was a game the ABs were not actually taking that serious, and just went out and gave the ball some air.
And the poms still f'n rave about it, "greatest game of all time" . . . yeah right; probably the only game that had been worth watching in Euro for decades.
Games like that all the time in NZ.Actually Mike, @mohikamo is just echoing what many AB's who played in Edwards career said about him - e.g. Meads, Laidlaw, Kirkpatrick, etc.
I'm old enough for that era and Sid pretty much outplayed him every time they met - exception being the 3rd Lions Test in '71.
JPR, on the other hand..... The finest Welsh player I have ever seen by some distance and up there with Meads, Gibson, McCaw etc in the Meldrew pantheon
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Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
No it was Simon Barnes.
It was the game that sparked an incredible run for the All Blacks. for the next 12 years. his timing couldnt have been any worse
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@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
No it was Simon Barnes.
It was the game that sparked an incredible run for the All Blacks. for the next 12 years. his timing couldnt have been any worse
@DaGrubster said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
No it was Simon Barnes.
The Walrus wrote about powder puff forwards before we smoked France and forced them to uncontested scrums.
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@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
No it was Simon Barnes.
It was the game that sparked an incredible run for the All Blacks. for the next 12 years. his timing couldnt have been any worse
@DaGrubster said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
No it was Simon Barnes.
It was the game that sparked an incredible run for the All Blacks. for the next 12 years. his timing couldnt have been any worse
That is atrocious shite.
But sadly - reading through it, I'm thinking "copy and paste some of the more level-headed paragraphs into an article to publish today... it's not too far off" -
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national sporting team.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national sporting team.
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national team.
Sad thing was, many people who turned on to Rugby after England's 2003 RWC win took what he said as gospel.
That said, his musings on the haka were fucking hilarious in their ignorance.
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@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national team.
Sad thing was, many people who turned on to Rugby after England's 2003 RWC win took what he said as gospel.
That said, his musings on the haka were fucking hilarious in their ignorance.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national team.
Sad thing was, many people who turned on to Rugby after England's 2003 RWC win took what he said as gospel.
That said, his musings on the haka were fucking hilarious in their ignorance.
Is he also the one who started the whole ‘Tokoroa being in the islands’ thing ?
It staggers me he actually made a living. He was usually wrong, never funny and just full of bitter bullshit.
Still, this is a world where James Corden is labelled as a ‘comedian’ so it probably shouldn’t surprise me.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national sporting team.
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national sporting team.
He was the buzzfeed of his generation. Understood that clicks/eyeballs were kings. In another life he'd be writing listicles on the net, not for the Times
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@DaGrubster said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
No it was Simon Barnes.
The Walrus wrote about powder puff forwards before we smoked France and forced them to uncontested scrums.
@nzzp said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@DaGrubster said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
No it was Simon Barnes.
The Walrus wrote about powder puff forwards before we smoked France and forced them to uncontested scrums.
Oh i dont doubt that for a second.
He has been doing it for his whole career! He wven derides New Zealand for the popularity of pumpkin soup!!
I thought you were referencing that particular article because it has been brought up a number of times on forums. Pleased I found it!
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national team.
Sad thing was, many people who turned on to Rugby after England's 2003 RWC win took what he said as gospel.
That said, his musings on the haka were fucking hilarious in their ignorance.
Is he also the one who started the whole ‘Tokoroa being in the islands’ thing ?
It staggers me he actually made a living. He was usually wrong, never funny and just full of bitter bullshit.
Still, this is a world where James Corden is labelled as a ‘comedian’ so it probably shouldn’t surprise me.
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national team.
Sad thing was, many people who turned on to Rugby after England's 2003 RWC win took what he said as gospel.
That said, his musings on the haka were fucking hilarious in their ignorance.
Is he also the one who started the whole ‘Tokoroa being in the islands’ thing ?
It staggers me he actually made a living. He was usually wrong, never funny and just full of bitter bullshit.
Still, this is a world where James Corden is labelled as a ‘comedian’ so it probably shouldn’t surprise me.
I fhink that was Brendan gallagher. I still remember his photo in the paper his foppy hair with a turtleneck! Bloody Pooftah!!
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@Catogrande Simon Barnes. The bird-watching guy.
@sparky said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande Simon Barnes. The bird-watching guy.
He looked a bit like Lamb out of Slow Horses!!
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@nzzp said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@DaGrubster said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
No it was Simon Barnes.
The Walrus wrote about powder puff forwards before we smoked France and forced them to uncontested scrums.
Oh i dont doubt that for a second.
He has been doing it for his whole career! He wven derides New Zealand for the popularity of pumpkin soup!!
I thought you were referencing that particular article because it has been brought up a number of times on forums. Pleased I found it!
@DaGrubster said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nzzp said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@DaGrubster said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
No it was Simon Barnes.
The Walrus wrote about powder puff forwards before we smoked France and forced them to uncontested scrums.
Oh i dont doubt that for a second.
He has been doing it for his whole career! He wven derides New Zealand for the popularity of pumpkin soup!!
I thought you were referencing that particular article because it has been brought up a number of times on forums. Pleased I found it!
For a country that thinks eating Leeks is a good idea he can get absolutely fucked.
Fuck Leeks and fuck him.
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Actually Mike, @mohikamo is just echoing what many AB's who played in Edwards career said about him - e.g. Meads, Laidlaw, Kirkpatrick, etc.
I'm old enough for that era and Sid pretty much outplayed him every time they met - exception being the 3rd Lions Test in '71.
JPR, on the other hand..... The finest Welsh player I have ever seen by some distance and up there with Meads, Gibson, McCaw etc in the Meldrew pantheon
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Actually Mike, @mohikamo is just echoing what many AB's who played in Edwards career said about him - e.g. Meads, Laidlaw, Kirkpatrick, etc.
I'm old enough for that era and Sid pretty much outplayed him every time they met - exception being the 3rd Lions Test in '71.
JPR, on the other hand..... The finest Welsh player I have ever seen by some distance and up there with Meads, Gibson, McCaw etc in the Meldrew pantheon
You’ve said on a previous occasion
Based on a discussion in another thread, Gareth (when you get to that level of recognition and admiration you can be known by one name) was good enough to be old enough to be good enough to captain arguably the best Welsh side of all time and when it comes to picking the best 9 ever Going - whilst he was a great player- never enters the conversation
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@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national team.
Sad thing was, many people who turned on to Rugby after England's 2003 RWC win took what he said as gospel.
That said, his musings on the haka were fucking hilarious in their ignorance.
Is he also the one who started the whole ‘Tokoroa being in the islands’ thing ?
It staggers me he actually made a living. He was usually wrong, never funny and just full of bitter bullshit.
Still, this is a world where James Corden is labelled as a ‘comedian’ so it probably shouldn’t surprise me.
I fhink that was Brendan gallagher. I still remember his photo in the paper his foppy hair with a turtleneck! Bloody Pooftah!!
@DaGrubster said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national team.
Sad thing was, many people who turned on to Rugby after England's 2003 RWC win took what he said as gospel.
That said, his musings on the haka were fucking hilarious in their ignorance.
Is he also the one who started the whole ‘Tokoroa being in the islands’ thing ?
It staggers me he actually made a living. He was usually wrong, never funny and just full of bitter bullshit.
Still, this is a world where James Corden is labelled as a ‘comedian’ so it probably shouldn’t surprise me.
I fhink that was Brendan gallagher. I still remember his photo in the paper his foppy hair with a turtleneck! Bloody Pooftah!!
I had a fight with him on twitter one time over whether PI NZers were NZers.
NH rugby journos are idiots, and I'm definitely including the ones resident in NZ.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Actually Mike, @mohikamo is just echoing what many AB's who played in Edwards career said about him - e.g. Meads, Laidlaw, Kirkpatrick, etc.
I'm old enough for that era and Sid pretty much outplayed him every time they met - exception being the 3rd Lions Test in '71.
JPR, on the other hand..... The finest Welsh player I have ever seen by some distance and up there with Meads, Gibson, McCaw etc in the Meldrew pantheon
You’ve said on a previous occasion
Based on a discussion in another thread, Gareth (when you get to that level of recognition and admiration you can be known by one name) was good enough to be old enough to be good enough to captain arguably the best Welsh side of all time and when it comes to picking the best 9 ever Going - whilst he was a great player- never enters the conversation
@MiketheSnow He did in SA. So did Edward’s in fairness.
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@mohikamo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
except his pass was pretty garbage by Test standards
Haha.
It wasn't that bad. But i'll concede it wasn't up to the very, very high standards of the rest of his game.
Very strong; remember him trying to put a bit of hit on a huge SA forward and getting squashed, quite comical.
All opponents had a stop Going plan.As for Edwards.
The ABs never bothered having a stop Edwards plan.
I know I watched him in quite a few games, but I dont actually have any recall of him, which you'd think I would, for the greatest halfback of all time . . . yeah right.Except for one game tho, but that was a game the ABs were not actually taking that serious, and just went out and gave the ball some air.
And the poms still f'n rave about it, "greatest game of all time" . . . yeah right; probably the only game that had been worth watching in Euro for decades.
Games like that all the time in NZ.I do remember JPR very clearly.
Still rate him probably the best front on tackler i've ever seen.
Had perfect timing. Drive up under the ribs and send them backwards.
Also a few others of the Welsh team of that time.
Wales were very good in that late 60s-70s era.
Probably the last time Wales had a really great team.
But NZ still zipped them.Gerald Davies - very sharp.
Merv the swerve.
Delme Thomas
John Taylor
Phil Bennett
Derek Quinnell
J. J. WilliamsRemember all of them and a few more; but cant recall anything onfield by Edwards or Barry John, just the names.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Actually Mike, @mohikamo is just echoing what many AB's who played in Edwards career said about him - e.g. Meads, Laidlaw, Kirkpatrick, etc.
I'm old enough for that era and Sid pretty much outplayed him every time they met - exception being the 3rd Lions Test in '71.
JPR, on the other hand..... The finest Welsh player I have ever seen by some distance and up there with Meads, Gibson, McCaw etc in the Meldrew pantheon
You’ve said on a previous occasion
Based on a discussion in another thread, Gareth (when you get to that level of recognition and admiration you can be known by one name) was good enough to be old enough to be good enough to captain arguably the best Welsh side of all time and when it comes to picking the best 9 ever Going - whilst he was a great player- never enters the conversation
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I do remember JPR very clearly.
Still rate him probably the best front on tackler i've ever seen.
Had perfect timing. Drive up under the ribs and send them backwards.
Also a few others of the Welsh team of that time.
Wales were very good in that late 60s-70s era.
Probably the last time Wales had a really great team.
But NZ still zipped them.Gerald Davies - very sharp.
Merv the swerve.
Delme Thomas
John Taylor
Phil Bennett
Derek Quinnell
J. J. WilliamsRemember all of them and a few more; but cant recall anything onfield by Edwards or Barry John, just the names.
@mohikamo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Phil Bennett
cant recall anything onfield
Greatest side step ever (on Kirky). About 2:50 in...
