Poll: Best AB coach - professional era
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@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Actually Mike, @mohikamo is just echoing what many AB's who played in Edwards career said about him - e.g. Meads, Laidlaw, Kirkpatrick, etc.
I'm old enough for that era and Sid pretty much outplayed him every time they met - exception being the 3rd Lions Test in '71.
JPR, on the other hand..... The finest Welsh player I have ever seen by some distance and up there with Meads, Gibson, McCaw etc in the Meldrew pantheon
You’ve said on a previous occasion
Based on a discussion in another thread, Gareth (when you get to that level of recognition and admiration you can be known by one name) was good enough to be old enough to be good enough to captain arguably the best Welsh side of all time and when it comes to picking the best 9 ever Going - whilst he was a great player- never enters the conversation
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I do remember JPR very clearly.
Still rate him probably the best front on tackler i've ever seen.
Had perfect timing. Drive up under the ribs and send them backwards.
Also a few others of the Welsh team of that time.
Wales were very good in that late 60s-70s era.
Probably the last time Wales had a really great team.
But NZ still zipped them.Gerald Davies - very sharp.
Merv the swerve.
Delme Thomas
John Taylor
Phil Bennett
Derek Quinnell
J. J. WilliamsRemember all of them and a few more; but cant recall anything onfield by Edwards or Barry John, just the names.
@mohikamo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Phil Bennett
cant recall anything onfield
Greatest side step ever (on Kirky). About 2:50 in...
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@mohikamo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Phil Bennett
cant recall anything onfield
Greatest side step ever (on Kirky). About 2:50 in...
@booboo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@mohikamo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Phil Bennett
cant recall anything onfield
Greatest side step ever (on Kirky). About 2:50 in...
Terrifying Haka to start with. The Welsh must have been shell shocked from the get go.
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I dont think i'd have any Euro players in an all-time world XV.
And I'd probably only have one or two in a list of the top 100 of all time.@mohikamo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
I dont think i'd have any Euro players in an all-time world XV.
And I'd probably only have one or two in a list of the top 100 of all time.
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@mohikamo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Phil Bennett
cant recall anything onfield
Greatest side step ever (on Kirky). About 2:50 in...
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@mohikamo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
I dont think i'd have any Euro players in an all-time world XV.
And I'd probably only have one or two in a list of the top 100 of all time.I think it was that idiot jones or maybe barnes, did his list of the 100 greatest players of all time.
Looked down the list . . . and saw Mike Catt on it . . . well . . . LOL . . . there is only one thing I remember about him!The stats would tell you that a top 100 list would have at least 80 boks and blacks names on it; plus a few Aussies and a few Euros.
The boks and blacks have absolutely dominated the game since they arrived on the scene.The Europeans have to move away from their Eurocentric view of the world . . . they are all great power has beens now.
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I think it was that idiot jones or maybe barnes, did his list of the 100 greatest players of all time.
Looked down the list . . . and saw Mike Catt on it . . . well . . . LOL . . . there is only one thing I remember about him!The stats would tell you that a top 100 list would have at least 80 boks and blacks names on it; plus a few Aussies and a few Euros.
The boks and blacks have absolutely dominated the game since they arrived on the scene.The Europeans have to move away from their Eurocentric view of the world . . . they are all great power has beens now.
@mohikamo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
The stats would tell you that a top 100 list would have at least 80 boks and blacks names on it; plus a few Aussies and a few Euros.
There is a fallacy going on here. I assume you are taking the mickey.
The boks and blacks have absolutely dominated the game since they arrived on the scene.
You're forgetting NZ's first game against Wales in 1905*, the Welsh dominance in the early 1900s and you can't really claim the dominance of the NZ Natives side because they weren't All Blacks.
The Europeans have to move away from their Eurocentric view of the world . . . they are all great power has beens now.
Um, NZ has never been a great power so I am not sure what you are trying to say.
*Good lord, I've defended Welsh rugby. I need to go and lie down in the dark now.
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@mohikamo said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
The stats would tell you that a top 100 list would have at least 80 boks and blacks names on it; plus a few Aussies and a few Euros.
There is a fallacy going on here. I assume you are taking the mickey.
The boks and blacks have absolutely dominated the game since they arrived on the scene.
You're forgetting NZ's first game against Wales in 1905*, the Welsh dominance in the early 1900s and you can't really claim the dominance of the NZ Natives side because they weren't All Blacks.
The Europeans have to move away from their Eurocentric view of the world . . . they are all great power has beens now.
Um, NZ has never been a great power so I am not sure what you are trying to say.
*Good lord, I've defended Welsh rugby. I need to go and lie down in the dark now.
Welsh rugby was very strong from about 1900 to 1912; often ranked No 1.
That was the last time any Euro team was consistently around the top of the rankings.The 1905 match was actually for the No 1 ranking (as per WRs ranking formula).
NZ were No 1 going into that match.
They had gained that rank for the first time a couple weeks earlier when they beat Ireland.
Wales went top with the win; but they lost a few weeks later and NZ returned to No 1.
That's how WRs ranking system works.
So I would say, any Welsh players ranked in the top 100, they would come from that 1900-12 period.
Great players coming from great teams.Ever since NZ, in 1905, and SA, in 1912, came on to the scene, one or other has dominated the top of the rankings.
If it is not NZ, then it is SA.
The Euros have barely had a look in.
Just look at the stats.I dont consider NZ, or Aus, or SA European nations.
The West Euro great power has-beens, with their "European" International norms BS.SA and NZ are international rugby great powers, and have been for a very long time.
But if it wasn't for the split in Aus rugby in 1908; the Aussies would probably be kicking everyones ass.
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@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national sporting team.
He was the buzzfeed of his generation. Understood that clicks/eyeballs were kings. In another life he'd be writing listicles on the net, not for the Times
@nzzp said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national sporting team.
He was the buzzfeed of his generation. Understood that clicks/eyeballs were kings. In another life he'd be writing listicles on the net, not for the Times
Jones rates the 96 ABs as the greatest team of all time. So he doesn’t hate NZ. I think he just enjoys being a wind up merchant.
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@nzzp said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national sporting team.
He was the buzzfeed of his generation. Understood that clicks/eyeballs were kings. In another life he'd be writing listicles on the net, not for the Times
Jones rates the 96 ABs as the greatest team of all time. So he doesn’t hate NZ. I think he just enjoys being a wind up merchant.
@stodders said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nzzp said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@MN5 said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@nonpartizan said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
@Catogrande said in Poll: Best AB coach - professional era:
Who the fuck penned that load of shite? The Walrus would be my guess.
Yep. He was on a roll in '04/5. Remember him claiming Martin Johnson playing rugby in NZ almost ruined his career.
Haha, wtf.
It was like a gap year of sorts at a time when he wasnt an established first team regular at Leicester never mind England.
That is crazy shit.
Stephen Jones: "Why Neil Back was a better 7 than Richie McCaw"
Stephen Jones: An All Black shagged my wife. Memoirs of unbridled hatred of a national sporting team.
He was the buzzfeed of his generation. Understood that clicks/eyeballs were kings. In another life he'd be writing listicles on the net, not for the Times
Jones rates the 96 ABs as the greatest team of all time. So he doesn’t hate NZ. I think he just enjoys being a wind up merchant.
He does hate nz rugby
