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All Blacks vs Pumas I

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    cgrant
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    <p>And why not Crotty + ALB in midfield ?</p>

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      #57

      The Pumas look to be a stronger side than the Wallabies this year, so Hansen will look to put out a stronger 23 than that which faced Australia

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        taniwharugby
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        #58

        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="610548" data-time="1472455998">
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        <p>The Pumas look to be a stronger side than the Wallabies this year, so Hansen will look to put out a stronger 23 than that which faced Australia</p>
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        <p> </p>
        <p>starting line-up was probably as good as we could field given the injuries we have, so not sure it will get much stronger.</p>

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          Frank
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          #59

          <p>Is Naholo gone for the entire Rugby Champioship?</p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>What about Moala?</p>

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            #60

            <p>I think Moala's <em>prognosis </em>was "a few weeks".</p>

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              hydro11
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              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="610548" data-time="1472455998">
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              <p>The Pumas look to be a stronger side than the Wallabies this year, so Hansen will look to put out a stronger 23 than that which faced Australia</p>
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              </blockquote>
              <p>I think Argentina can be more difficult to play than Australia because they bring something a bit different. We have struggled to break them down in the past. I still think the Aussies will beat them twice, however.</p>

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                African Monkey
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                <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="610591" data-time="1472463008">
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                <p>I think Argentina can be more difficult to play than Australia because they bring something a bit different. We have struggled to break them down in the past. I still think the Aussies will beat them twice, however.</p>
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                <p>Yes everyone ususally expects the Argies to get up over Aussie but most of the time Australia give them some thrashings.</p>

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                  sparky
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                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="610555" data-time="1472456664"><p>
                  starting line-up was probably as good as we could field given the injuries we have, so not sure it will get much stronger.</p></blockquote><br>
                  I expect Ryan Crotty, Cody Taylor and Patrick T to be back in the 23 for Argentina, perhaps Moala. All of them will strengthen the squad against Argentina's ball carriers.

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                    #64

                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="hydro11" data-cid="610591" data-time="1472463008">
                    <div>
                    <p>I think Argentina can be more difficult to play than Australia because they bring something a bit different. We have struggled to break them down in the past. I still think the Aussies will beat them twice, however.</p>
                    </div>
                    </blockquote>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>That will be interesting to see how the Pumas go against Australia , </p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>For whatever reason they seem to enjoy playing the Boks , and hold no fears against them , </p>
                    <p> </p>
                    <p>Bringing the Pumas into this comp could turn out to be a real pain in the butt for the Boks </p>

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                      There was an article about Moala stating the plan is perhaps to have him ready Sept 17 v Boks in Chch at best. Dont think he is a chance for Argie in Hamilton - he was walking very gingerly on the field after the Bleds on Sat

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                        Bovidae
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                        <p>I read an article yesterday which said that the realistic target to return for both Moala and Naholo was the Arg/SA trip.</p>

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                          MN5
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                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Bovidae" data-cid="610658" data-time="1472508498">
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                          <p>I read an article yesterday which said that the realistic target to return for both Moala and Naholo was the Arg/SA trip.</p>
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                          <p>If Moala returns does that mean Taminuvula is goneski ?</p>

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                            #68

                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="610659" data-time="1472508652">
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                            <p>If Moala returns does that mean Taminuvula is goneski ?</p>
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                            </blockquote>
                            <p>Yeah that's interesting technically didn't Taminuvula replace SBW, then ALB replace Moala? Last on, first off would dictate that Leinart-Brown is a goner - but after that performance surely not?</p>

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                              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="rotated" data-cid="610676" data-time="1472511431">
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                              <p>Yeah that's interesting technically didn't Taminuvula replace SBW, then ALB replace Moala? Last on, first off would dictate that Leinart-Brown is a goner - but after that performance surely not?</p>
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                              </blockquote>
                              <p>ALB replaced SBW first and then Tamanivalu came in for Moala.</p>

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                                <p>I actually think there will be a few changes. Have nothing to base it on, but I get the feeling that the away tests will be really targeted, so will want our strongest 23 available.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>I would not be surprised to see Tuipoluto and Romano starting together with one of Retallick/Whitelock on the bench.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>There aren't many options in the back 3 unless they give Cruden/Sopoaga a run at 10 and Barrett is in the mix for a back 3 spot to give Dagg or Bender a spell.  </p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Crotty/ALB plus Fekitoa.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>I think Read and Cane will start every test. Dixon or "Swuire" to start.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Moody, Franks to start with Woody and Charlie on the bench</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Taylor to start and Coles on the bench.</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p> </p>

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                                  ACT Crusader
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                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="cgrant" data-cid="610542" data-time="1472455085"><p>And why not Crotty + ALB in midfield ?</p></blockquote>
                                  <br>
                                  I can't see them dropping Fekitoa. I think as long as he's fit they will give him as much opportunity to develop. They will want him to grow in confidence and keep improving.

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                                    Billy Tell
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                                    <p>Crotty + ALB = too similar imo.  It's one or the other at 12 with Fekitoa, or Moala (if fit) or if needed Tamanivulu at 13.</p>

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                                      BartMan
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                                      #73

                                      Pukunui I agree. No reaction from the Aussie lock. I was gouged once and you come up swinging and biting and throwing anything and everything. Lack of reaction alone tells you no gouge.

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                                        Chris B.
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                                        #74

                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="ACT Crusader" data-cid="610789" data-time="1472543842">
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                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Moody, Franks to start with Woody and Charlie on the bench</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Winding back the clock, eh?  :)</p>

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                                          pukunui
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                                          #75

                                          <p>You would think if they are going to do any sort of rotation this would be the game to do it.</p>
                                          <p>I doubt they will want to mess with the team too much and really can't afford to in the backs with all the injuries.</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>I would think (and Im sure Hansen will be on board) the following:</p>
                                          <p>- If Crotty is fit he will come back in and pair with Fekitoa to keep developing that combo. ALB to bench.</p>
                                          <p>- If Taylor is fit he will go to the bench with Coles starting </p>
                                          <p>- Maybe one player rotated from the loosies. Either Savea starting/Cane Bench or Squire/Dixon starting with Kaino rested.</p>
                                          <p>- Pat T to the bench in place of the second loosie (see above point). or Possibly to start for one of BBBR/Sam</p>
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>The rest i see staying the same until Moala/Naholo come back.</p>

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