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B&I Lions 2017

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @canefan I don't think you want to have trophies in "opposed trainings"?

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    @Chris-B. said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @canefan I don't think you want to have trophies in "opposed trainings"?

    They need something to drink the gatorade out of

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      It's going to be the French invasion for the Lions tour. Throw in Peyper and Gardner as well.

      http://officiating.worldrugby.org/index.php?page=appointments&id=47

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        Very underhwelming options available with the retirement of Joubert.

        Garces is fine. The other two can single-handedly ruin a game, but Peyper sometimes surprises you and gets out of his own way.

        There wasn't much else out there another two Frenchmen in Raynal and Guazare - plus Gardner. So likely the best they could do.

        Ayoub will TMO all three tests.

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        • rotatedR rotated

          Very underhwelming options available with the retirement of Joubert.

          Garces is fine. The other two can single-handedly ruin a game, but Peyper sometimes surprises you and gets out of his own way.

          There wasn't much else out there another two Frenchmen in Raynal and Guazare - plus Gardner. So likely the best they could do.

          Ayoub will TMO all three tests.

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          @rotated said in B&I Lions 2017:

          Very underhwelming options available with the retirement of Joubert.

          Garces is fine. The other two can single-handedly ruin a game, but Peyper sometimes surprises you and gets out of his own way.

          There wasn't much else out there another two Frenchmen in Raynal and Guazare - plus Gardner. So likely the best they could do.

          Ayoub will TMO all three tests.

          Gardner is probably the best ref going around at the moment. I wonder why he didn't get a starting gig

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            @rotated said in B&I Lions 2017:

            Very underhwelming options available with the retirement of Joubert.

            Garces is fine. The other two can single-handedly ruin a game, but Peyper sometimes surprises you and gets out of his own way.

            There wasn't much else out there another two Frenchmen in Raynal and Guazare - plus Gardner. So likely the best they could do.

            Ayoub will TMO all three tests.

            Gardner is probably the best ref going around at the moment. I wonder why he didn't get a starting gig

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            @Hooroo Alain Rolland doesn't speak Australian? 😀

            I would have given Gardner the Maori game if he wasn't appointed to a test.

            WR obviously has a pecking order for their refs.

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            • HoorooH Hooroo

              @rotated said in B&I Lions 2017:

              Very underhwelming options available with the retirement of Joubert.

              Garces is fine. The other two can single-handedly ruin a game, but Peyper sometimes surprises you and gets out of his own way.

              There wasn't much else out there another two Frenchmen in Raynal and Guazare - plus Gardner. So likely the best they could do.

              Ayoub will TMO all three tests.

              Gardner is probably the best ref going around at the moment. I wonder why he didn't get a starting gig

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              @Hooroo Because the games Gardner referees tends to be quite well flowing, well communicated and free of pedantic ridiculous penalties.

              The NH press boys wouldn't have stood for this, and there would be a thousand tweets a second going towards Gosper & Pichot of the red nosed gin brigade.

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                I stilll remember the vitriol Pollock faced after he dared penalise O'Driscoll in test 1 of 2013. It was personal, unfounded, unfair and for the most part, bullshit.

                I think everybody agreed test 1 was a cracking test match - Pollock had a lot to do with that, but then he got absolutely slated by the entire NH who effectively did what NZ did to Barnes.

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                  Speaking of refs, I watched the Maori-Lions game from the 2005 tour last night. I went to the game and probably haven't seen a replay since shortly after that time.

                  Steve Walsh was at his arrogant, condescending best. The scrums were a mess, the breakdown a free-for-all and I don't think either side would have happy after the game. OK, the Maori would have been slightly more happy.

                  And Mex was commentating. How times have changed.

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                  • rotatedR rotated

                    Very underhwelming options available with the retirement of Joubert.

                    Garces is fine. The other two can single-handedly ruin a game, but Peyper sometimes surprises you and gets out of his own way.

                    There wasn't much else out there another two Frenchmen in Raynal and Guazare - plus Gardner. So likely the best they could do.

                    Ayoub will TMO all three tests.

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                    @rotated said in B&I Lions 2017:

                    Ayoub will TMO all three tests.

                    How the fuck is he employed?

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                      I don't like Romain Poite. He's always micro-managing a game, using his whistle way too often. He also loves handing out cards. Well, at least when I'm watching Top 14 games.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        I don't like Romain Poite. He's always micro-managing a game, using his whistle way too often. He also loves handing out cards. Well, at least when I'm watching Top 14 games.

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                        @Stargazer Which is exactly why the journo's up north love him. I think there is a strong expectation that there are going to be at least 2-3 Yellows and probably a red against the AB's in each test, as they are finally "refereed properly".

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                        • MajorStokesM MajorStokes

                          @Stargazer Which is exactly why the journo's up north love him. I think there is a strong expectation that there are going to be at least 2-3 Yellows and probably a red against the AB's in each test, as they are finally "refereed properly".

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                          @MajorRage I think you should qualify that "journos up north" though. A lot of Frenchies I talk to, dislike the guy with a vengeance. If you're right, it's "journos in the UK & Ireland".

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                            @MajorRage I think you should qualify that "journos up north" though. A lot of Frenchies I talk to, dislike the guy with a vengeance. If you're right, it's "journos in the UK & Ireland".

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                            @Stargazer Fair call. Although from what I've understood about French fans, alot of them are firmly on the ABs are cheats and refs a lenient to them bandwagon!!

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                              @MajorRage I think you should qualify that "journos up north" though. A lot of Frenchies I talk to, dislike the guy with a vengeance. If you're right, it's "journos in the UK & Ireland".

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                              @Stargazer said in B&I Lions 2017:

                              @MajorRage I think you should qualify that "journos up north" though. A lot of Frenchies I talk to, dislike the guy with a vengeance. If you're right, it's "journos in the UK & Ireland".

                              Errr. No.

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                                I agree. It's hard to move up here without stumbling across a Romain Poite puff piece in the press.

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                                  I agree. It's hard to move up here without stumbling across a Romain Poite puff piece in the press.

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                                  @Margin_Walker said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                  I agree. It's hard to move up here without stumbling across a Romain Poite puff piece in the press.

                                  Err No!!

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                                    @Margin_Walker said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                    I agree. It's hard to move up here without stumbling across a Romain Poite puff piece in the press.

                                    Err No!!

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                                    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                    @Margin_Walker said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                    I agree. It's hard to move up here without stumbling across a Romain Poite puff piece in the press.

                                    Err No!!

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                                      So what are we thinking people? 4 locks?

                                      Whitelock & Retallick.

                                      Then 2 from Romano, Barrett, tuipolotu and a resurgent bird.

                                      Anyone else?

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                                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                        So what are we thinking people? 4 locks?

                                        Whitelock & Retallick.

                                        Then 2 from Romano, Barrett, tuipolotu and a resurgent bird.

                                        Anyone else?

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                                        @Billy-Tell said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                        So what are we thinking people? 4 locks?

                                        Whitelock & Retallick.

                                        Then 2 from Romano, Barrett, tuipolotu and a resurgent bird.

                                        Anyone else?

                                        Franklin should be in the discussion. Maybe Fifita too if he returns and hits form.

                                        But Romano, Barrett and Tuipulotu are probably the front runners.

                                        I'm certainly not concerned about our lock depth. (Y'know as long as we actually pick locks and aren't trying to throw games)

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                                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                          So what are we thinking people? 4 locks?

                                          Whitelock & Retallick.

                                          Then 2 from Romano, Barrett, tuipolotu and a resurgent bird.

                                          Anyone else?

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                                          @Billy-Tell said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                          So what are we thinking people? 4 locks?

                                          Whitelock & Retallick.

                                          Then 2 from Romano, Barrett, tuipolotu and a resurgent bird.

                                          Anyone else?

                                          Good call on having Bird at least in the frame. I am a huge Tuipolotu & Blues fan - absolutely love his game and he has been pretty good all things considered this season - but jeez Bird this year has something about him that makes me want to see him in black this season and coming off the bench.

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