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B&I Lions 2017

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    SimonAdd_2
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    Isn't Gatland on record as saying he thinks AWJ is too much heart, not enough head for a captain, or something like that?

    Far from assured his Test place too, for me.

    Murray is an interesting call, has he captained much before?

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      @rotated said in B&I Lions 2017:

      Been seeing a bit of a late push for Conor Murray. That would be attractive to me given the current options, giving the captaincy to someone who has to be substituted in the modern game means you can give one of these guys a spell too,

      Even some of the pundits pushing for AWJ as the captain are saying he would still be substituted.

      Is Murray guaranteed to start? The advantage is that you would have an Irish 9-10 combo if Sexton is at 1st 5 but, again, a lot think Webb will start and Murray comes off the bench.

      Farrell might be as close to a certainty as any player. Does he have any captaincy experience for Saracens?

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      @Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:

      @rotated said in B&I Lions 2017:

      Been seeing a bit of a late push for Conor Murray. That would be attractive to me given the current options, giving the captaincy to someone who has to be substituted in the modern game means you can give one of these guys a spell too,

      Even some of the pundits pushing for AWJ as the captain are saying he would still be substituted.

      Is Murray guaranteed to start? The advantage is that you would have an Irish 9-10 combo if Sexton is at 1st 5 but, again, a lot think Webb will start and Murray comes off the bench.

      Farrell might be as close to a certainty as any player. Does he have any captaincy experience for Saracens?

      I think at the moment Murray is as close to a dead cert to start as there can be. Webb has been playing very well but brings an awful lot of niggle and unnecessary penalties. This is a shame as he has pretty good service and is always a running threat too.

      I'm not sure if Farrell has much captaincy experience although he has been touted as the England captain in waiting. I'm not so sure. I don't think I've seen enough from him as a communicator to see him as skipper material just yet. Sure he can boss a game and leads by example - just not always a good example.

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        What about Peter O'Mahony?
        Likely starter (imo), captaincy experience, proper hard bastard, etc

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          @jegga he'd obviously have no chance against SBW and Elliott.

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          @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

          @jegga he'd obviously have no chance against SBW and Elliott.

          Elliot? You mean the guy who lost to everyone's favourite NSWer Paul Gallen?

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            Warburton is a done deal as captain judging by the amount of "leaked" reports on him and his injury status.

            Here's the latest from today's Telegraph

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              @rotated I originally read that as Conor MacGregor and was thinking about the havoc he would wreak.

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              @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

              @rotated I originally read that as Conor MacGregor and was thinking about the havoc he would wreak.

              We would need 'Waterboy Messam' on the sideline.

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                Warburton is a done deal as captain judging by the amount of "leaked" reports on him and his injury status.

                Here's the latest from today's Telegraph

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                @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

                Warburton is a done deal as captain judging by the amount of "leaked" reports on him and his injury status.
                Here's the latest from today's Telegraph

                That article is nearly as bad as something you'd find on "Stuff"... not a single piece of actual new information justifying the headline.

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                  @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

                  Warburton is a done deal as captain judging by the amount of "leaked" reports on him and his injury status.
                  Here's the latest from today's Telegraph

                  That article is nearly as bad as something you'd find on "Stuff"... not a single piece of actual new information justifying the headline.

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                  @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

                  @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

                  Warburton is a done deal as captain judging by the amount of "leaked" reports on him and his injury status.
                  Here's the latest from today's Telegraph

                  That article is nearly as bad as something you'd find on "Stuff"... not a single piece of actual new information justifying the headline.

                  Pretty much copied the BBC piece I posted earlier

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                    Read today that George Kruis is expected back in action this weekend to make a late bid.

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                      @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

                      @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

                      Warburton is a done deal as captain judging by the amount of "leaked" reports on him and his injury status.
                      Here's the latest from today's Telegraph

                      That article is nearly as bad as something you'd find on "Stuff"... not a single piece of actual new information justifying the headline.

                      Pretty much copied the BBC piece I posted earlier

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                      @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                      Pretty much copied the BBC piece I posted earlier

                      Yep - just with a more sensationalist headline.

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                        Full house set for Maori All Blacks and the Lions in Rotorua with tickets no longer available for the eagerly awaited 17 June fixture

                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/852325471442292737

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                          Latest Lions rumours on the Beeb (including Launchbury and Joseph to miss out).Two days to go until all the speculation can finally stop, and the recriminations and secondguessing begin in earnest.

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                            Latest Lions rumours on the Beeb (including Launchbury and Joseph to miss out).Two days to go until all the speculation can finally stop, and the recriminations and secondguessing begin in earnest.

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                            @Disgusted-of-TW said in B&I Lions 2017:

                            Latest Lions rumours on the Beeb (including Launchbury and Joseph to miss out) Two days to go until all the speculation can finally stop, and the recriminations and secondguessing begin in earnest.

                            Saw that. Utterly bonkers if it turns out to be true. Gatland determined to repeat SCW's legacy.

                            I mean Jonathan Davies FFS.

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                              Wednesday could be fun at this rate...

                              Launchbury would be an odd one, but lock is the position with most depth and I could just about see them going with a lineout caller like Kruis. JJ losing out to Jiffy Jr though would be batshit crazy.

                              Telegraph are separately confident that Sinckler has made the cut as the third TH.

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                                Wednesday could be fun at this rate...

                                Launchbury would be an odd one, but lock is the position with most depth and I could just about see them going with a lineout caller like Kruis. JJ losing out to Jiffy Jr though would be batshit crazy.

                                Telegraph are separately confident that Sinckler has made the cut as the third TH.

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                                @Margin_Walker said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                Wednesday could be fun at this rate...

                                JJ losing out to Jiffy Jr though would be batshit crazy.

                                JJ or JJ, though, you can see how that might lead to clerical errors...

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                                  @Disgusted-of-TW said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                  Latest Lions rumours on the Beeb (including Launchbury and Joseph to miss out) Two days to go until all the speculation can finally stop, and the recriminations and secondguessing begin in earnest.

                                  Saw that. Utterly bonkers if it turns out to be true. Gatland determined to repeat SCW's legacy.

                                  I mean Jonathan Davies FFS.

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                                  @SimonAdd_2 Jonathan Davies has been there before and played well so I could see the logic in that selection. It's not like Gatland is picking Roberts ahead of Joseph. Or is he?

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                                    @SimonAdd_2 Jonathan Davies has been there before and played well so I could see the logic in that selection. It's not like Gatland is picking Roberts ahead of Joseph. Or is he?

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                                    @Bovidae Now THAT would bet batshit crazy.

                                    Im interested, if those rumours are true, does it mean Ringrose is in, or will Daly be covering 13? On form Ringrose should be close to starting..

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                                      Well according to butthurt Scottish fans on a forum I get popcorn and read sometimes Hogg is the ONLY Scot who will tour ( and most probably be the test 15 ) some are suggesting Hogg should tell the Lions to get fucked and tour Oz with Scotland instead ?!?!?!?!?!

                                      They're all throwing their toys and planning on supporting the ABs and completely throwing away the proud Lions legacy that quite a few thistle wearers have been a part of.

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                                        Latest Lions rumours on the Beeb (including Launchbury and Joseph to miss out).Two days to go until all the speculation can finally stop, and the recriminations and secondguessing begin in earnest.

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                                        @Disgusted-of-TW said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                        Latest Lions rumours on the Beeb (including Launchbury and Joseph to miss out).Two days to go until all the speculation can finally stop, and the recriminations and secondguessing begin in earnest.

                                        I love the recriminations bit - all the national outrage for the first 24-48 hours, then after grief and denial comes acceptance with muttered dire warnings of I told you so held in reserve until it all goes wrong in the first test as the New Zealanders run in their seventh try to the sounds of easy, easy and mexican waves rolling around Eden Park.....

                                        JJ would have stopped that sixth try, I'm telling you.....

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                                          Home Nations fans should save their angst for Wednesday's announcement. There'll be enough there for some misplaced, righteous indignation.

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