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B&I Lions 2017

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    Cover fullback from within the current squad and bring in Ford

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      Cover fullback from within the current squad and bring in Ford

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      @Duluth said in B&I Lions 2017:

      Cover fullback from within the current squad and bring in Ford

      While not a bad call that would be admitting the first selections were wrong. So, unlikely.

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      • CatograndeC Catogrande

        @Billy-Tell said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @Stargazer said in B&I Lions 2017:

        Sad. Stuart Hogg ruled out of remainder of Lions tour

        No replacement will be named apparently, but if there were one

        Zebo?
        Earls?
        May?
        Brown?

        Earls was absolutely excellent for Ireland vs USA, the best I have ever seen him play in a green jersey.

        If you wanted a like for like replacement, how about Nick Abendanon?

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        @Catogrande said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @Billy-Tell said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @Stargazer said in B&I Lions 2017:

        Sad. Stuart Hogg ruled out of remainder of Lions tour

        No replacement will be named apparently, but if there were one

        Zebo?
        Earls?
        May?
        Brown?

        Earls was absolutely excellent for Ireland vs USA, the best I have ever seen him play in a green jersey.

        If you wanted a like for like replacement, how about Nick Abendanon?

        If you are doing French exiles, then David Strettle is fairly decent too.

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        • CatograndeC Catogrande

          @Duluth said in B&I Lions 2017:

          Cover fullback from within the current squad and bring in Ford

          While not a bad call that would be admitting the first selections were wrong. So, unlikely.

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          @Catogrande

          Yeah, its not a prediction. Just what I think they should do

          Ford at 10 and Farrell at 12. As you said it would be admitting the initial selection was wrong, it would be admitting the backs aren't converting enough opportunities and it would be copying Eddie Jones

          Gatland would never do any of that.

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            British and Lions head coach Warren Gatland has called up Scotland duo Allan Dell (prop) and Finn Russell (fly-half) ahead of their Test series against New Zealand

            Dell and Russell’s call-ups come after Wales’ Cory Hill, Kristian Dacey, Gareth Davies and Tomas Francis joined the squad on Saturday afternoon following their Test against Tonga in Auckland on Friday.
            
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              Russell the only one who adds anything to the overall squad.

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                Russell the only one who adds anything to the overall squad.

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                @pakman

                Russell and Davies are both there or there abouts, so fair enough (would rather Davies than Laidlaw any day). The rest are a joke. If geography is an issue and you always planned this, why not call up the best guys available 3 or 4 days earlier and give time to get over jet lag?

                Even if you limit yourself to Wales and Scotland, I'm not sure how Dacey and Hill got in ahead of Brown and Gray

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                  @pakman

                  Russell and Davies are both there or there abouts, so fair enough (would rather Davies than Laidlaw any day). The rest are a joke. If geography is an issue and you always planned this, why not call up the best guys available 3 or 4 days earlier and give time to get over jet lag?

                  Even if you limit yourself to Wales and Scotland, I'm not sure how Dacey and Hill got in ahead of Brown and Gray

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                  @Margin_Walker said in B&I Lions 2017:

                  @pakman

                  Russell and Davies are both there or there abouts, so fair enough (would rather Davies than Laidlaw any day). The rest are a joke. If geography is an issue and you always planned this, why not call up the best guys available 3 or 4 days earlier and give time to get over jet lag?

                  Even if you limit yourself to Wales and Scotland, I'm not sure how Dacey and Hill got in ahead of Brown and Gray

                  Word on the street is the Welsh boys trained with the Lions in Wales when a large number of the squad were still involved in club competitions.

                  So know the system and calls etc.

                  They're not the best Welsh players, Davies aside, because Wales have Samoa next weekend.

                  They'll be ready to train tomorrow (Sunday), the Scots won't.

                  And I also heard that Eddie said no players would leave the England camp until the Tests were done. So that rules out Launchbury and Ford. Even though they should have gone in the first place.

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    @Margin_Walker said in B&I Lions 2017:

                    @pakman

                    Russell and Davies are both there or there abouts, so fair enough (would rather Davies than Laidlaw any day). The rest are a joke. If geography is an issue and you always planned this, why not call up the best guys available 3 or 4 days earlier and give time to get over jet lag?

                    Even if you limit yourself to Wales and Scotland, I'm not sure how Dacey and Hill got in ahead of Brown and Gray

                    Word on the street is the Welsh boys trained with the Lions in Wales when a large number of the squad were still involved in club competitions.

                    So know the system and calls etc.

                    They're not the best Welsh players, Davies aside, because Wales have Samoa next weekend.

                    They'll be ready to train tomorrow (Sunday), the Scots won't.

                    And I also heard that Eddie said no players would leave the England camp until the Tests were done. So that rules out Launchbury and Ford. Even though they should have gone in the first place.

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                    Margin_Walker
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                    @MiketheSnow

                    You got a link to Eddie saying he wouldn't release England players until after the tests? Find that hard to believe, but happy to be proved wrong.

                    Regardless of knowing the calls I reckon Launchbury would make a better fist of the midweek games than Hill. It's done now though so no point moaning, but Gatland better win a test or two, or this sort of thing is likely to be what's remembered.

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                      MiketheSnow
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                      #960

                      Rumour mill. Fake news.

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                        #961

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                          That

                          is a car crash.

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                          • KruseK Kruse

                            That

                            is a car crash.

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                            @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

                            That

                            is a car crash.

                            Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

                            I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

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                            • KruseK Kruse

                              That

                              is a car crash.

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                              @Kruse he's not hugely likeable is he?

                              Twittish obviously set up question from the journo

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                              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                That

                                is a car crash.

                                Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

                                I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

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                                @kiwiinmelb yeah I was wondering what Hansen has said that has been controversial

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                                  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11877875

                                  The column is behind a pay wall, so I can't access it, but this is the link:

                                  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/15/refereeing-lions-test-series-will-inconsistent-product-system/

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                                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                    @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                    That

                                    is a car crash.

                                    Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

                                    I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

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                                    @kiwiinmelb said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                    @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                    Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

                                    I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

                                    Maybe it's about Hansen's predictions about Gatland "calling in the cavalry"?

                                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/93797514/lions-tour-jonathan-sexton-finally-finds-form-to-lead-lions-to-win-over-maori

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                      @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                      Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

                                      I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

                                      Maybe it's about Hansen's predictions about Gatland "calling in the cavalry"?

                                      http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/93797514/lions-tour-jonathan-sexton-finally-finds-form-to-lead-lions-to-win-over-maori

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                                      @Stargazer said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                      @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                      Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

                                      I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

                                      Maybe it's about Hansen's predictions about Gatland "calling in the cavalry"?

                                      Seeing as Gatland said before the tour that he was like to add to the squad, not that much of a prediction!

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                                      • KruseK Kruse

                                        That

                                        is a car crash.

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                                        Sapetyvi
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                                        #969

                                        @Kruse What did he say, I am a millenial with a 15 second attention span and that video was 15 minutes

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                                        • SapetyviS Sapetyvi

                                          @Kruse What did he say, I am a millenial with a 15 second attention span and that video was 15 minutes

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                                          @Sapetyvi I got about 3 minutes or so in and started crying from boredom.

                                          But what I saw had an Irish journo trying to wind him up asking if the ABs should be scared and then saying Hansen said the camp would be divided.

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