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B&I Lions 2017

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  • KruseK Offline
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    #962

    That

    is a car crash.

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    • KruseK Kruse

      That

      is a car crash.

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      #963

      @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

      That

      is a car crash.

      Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

      I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

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      • KruseK Kruse

        That

        is a car crash.

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        @Kruse he's not hugely likeable is he?

        Twittish obviously set up question from the journo

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        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

          @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

          That

          is a car crash.

          Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

          I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

          taniwharugbyT Offline
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          taniwharugby
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          @kiwiinmelb yeah I was wondering what Hansen has said that has been controversial

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            http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11877875

            The column is behind a pay wall, so I can't access it, but this is the link:

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/15/refereeing-lions-test-series-will-inconsistent-product-system/

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            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

              @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

              That

              is a car crash.

              Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

              I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

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              #967

              @kiwiinmelb said in B&I Lions 2017:

              @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

              Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

              I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

              Maybe it's about Hansen's predictions about Gatland "calling in the cavalry"?

              http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/93797514/lions-tour-jonathan-sexton-finally-finds-form-to-lead-lions-to-win-over-maori

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @kiwiinmelb said in B&I Lions 2017:

                @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

                Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

                I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

                Maybe it's about Hansen's predictions about Gatland "calling in the cavalry"?

                http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/93797514/lions-tour-jonathan-sexton-finally-finds-form-to-lead-lions-to-win-over-maori

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                #968

                @Stargazer said in B&I Lions 2017:

                @kiwiinmelb said in B&I Lions 2017:

                @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

                Has Steve Hanson said anything that bad ?

                I ve heard him speak about them , but it seems to be when he has been asked a question about what he expects from them , or how he thinks they are going

                Maybe it's about Hansen's predictions about Gatland "calling in the cavalry"?

                Seeing as Gatland said before the tour that he was like to add to the squad, not that much of a prediction!

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                • KruseK Kruse

                  That

                  is a car crash.

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                  @Kruse What did he say, I am a millenial with a 15 second attention span and that video was 15 minutes

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                  • SapetyviS Sapetyvi

                    @Kruse What did he say, I am a millenial with a 15 second attention span and that video was 15 minutes

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                    #970

                    @Sapetyvi I got about 3 minutes or so in and started crying from boredom.

                    But what I saw had an Irish journo trying to wind him up asking if the ABs should be scared and then saying Hansen said the camp would be divided.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11877875

                      The column is behind a pay wall, so I can't access it, but this is the link:

                      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/15/refereeing-lions-test-series-will-inconsistent-product-system/

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                      @Stargazer said in B&I Lions 2017:

                      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11877875

                      The column is behind a pay wall, so I can't access it, but this is the link:

                      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/06/15/refereeing-lions-test-series-will-inconsistent-product-system/

                      We all are

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                        Tuned in to watch the last few mins of Argie v England, and then listened to Monye, Moore and Guscott whine about England players being snubbed and not being included in Gatland's recent call-ups. Did their best to gloss over that this could create some discord within the current Lions squad.
                        TBH I thought they had a point. Launchbury, Hartley, Brown could have easily slotted in and there is an argument whether they are actually better than their counterparts in the current squad.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Sapetyvi I got about 3 minutes or so in and started crying from boredom.

                          But what I saw had an Irish journo trying to wind him up asking if the ABs should be scared and then saying Hansen said the camp would be divided.

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                          @Bones Ok, went and listened up to "Hansen has been doing a lot of press conferences lately".

                          No shit, he is the head coach of a rugby team that is about to enter the biggest three game series of his coaching era, in a country that is a tad crazy about the sport.

                          In a way I understand people critizing Hansens behaviour, if you take some things he says, out of context, he comes across as arrogant, but when you listen full interviews, and understand he has won everything that has come his way, he isn't arrogant, he is entitled to say basically what he likes.
                          And this 'two teams' thing he said, remember when Hansen picked the Wallabies midfield last year? He is getting exactly the same response, which he probably expected.

                          This is just my view of him tho, someone will probably disagree, but the way he handles the media and the opposition is second to none.

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                          • SapetyviS Sapetyvi

                            @Bones Ok, went and listened up to "Hansen has been doing a lot of press conferences lately".

                            No shit, he is the head coach of a rugby team that is about to enter the biggest three game series of his coaching era, in a country that is a tad crazy about the sport.

                            In a way I understand people critizing Hansens behaviour, if you take some things he says, out of context, he comes across as arrogant, but when you listen full interviews, and understand he has won everything that has come his way, he isn't arrogant, he is entitled to say basically what he likes.
                            And this 'two teams' thing he said, remember when Hansen picked the Wallabies midfield last year? He is getting exactly the same response, which he probably expected.

                            This is just my view of him tho, someone will probably disagree, but the way he handles the media and the opposition is second to none.

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                            #974

                            @Sapetyvi if the British media arent able to gripe about the Haka, our arrogance, killing Irishmen, dummy runners, poaching or the price of our lamb, what ever would they whine about?

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                            • C Crash

                              Tuned in to watch the last few mins of Argie v England, and then listened to Monye, Moore and Guscott whine about England players being snubbed and not being included in Gatland's recent call-ups. Did their best to gloss over that this could create some discord within the current Lions squad.
                              TBH I thought they had a point. Launchbury, Hartley, Brown could have easily slotted in and there is an argument whether they are actually better than their counterparts in the current squad.

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                              @Crash said in B&I Lions 2017:

                              Tuned in to watch the last few mins of Argie v England, and then listened to Monye, Moore and Guscott whine about England players being snubbed and not being included in Gatland's recent call-ups. Did their best to gloss over that this could create some discord within the current Lions squad.
                              TBH I thought they had a point. Launchbury, Hartley, Brown could have easily slotted in and there is an argument whether they are actually better than their counterparts in the current squad.

                              Are Launchbury, Hartley, Brown et al better than the players called into the squad?
                              Yes, with the possible exception of Gareth Davies.

                              Would they - especially the forwards - be able to train Sunday and Monday in preparation for Tuesday?
                              No

                              Could Gatland have called players up prior to the weekend Tests?
                              Yes

                              Would this have undermined the Home Nations clean sweep of victories?
                              Definitely

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                                It's really hard to get from Argentina to NZ. It's like 1 direct flight a week.
                                Maybe via Sydney is more frequent?

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                                  • C Crash

                                    Tuned in to watch the last few mins of Argie v England, and then listened to Monye, Moore and Guscott whine about England players being snubbed and not being included in Gatland's recent call-ups. Did their best to gloss over that this could create some discord within the current Lions squad.
                                    TBH I thought they had a point. Launchbury, Hartley, Brown could have easily slotted in and there is an argument whether they are actually better than their counterparts in the current squad.

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                                    @Crash was that around the same time Moore was having a go at the Argies because they play super rugby and that's why they're shit, because there's no relegation and no consequences?

                                    Well at least we now know why the ABs are shit too.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Sapetyvi if the British media arent able to gripe about the Haka, our arrogance, killing Irishmen, dummy runners, poaching or the price of our lamb, what ever would they whine about?

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                                      @taniwharugby said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                      @Sapetyvi if the British media arent able to gripe about the Haka, our arrogance, killing Irishmen, dummy runners, poaching or the price of our lamb, what ever would they whine about?

                                      FFS TR, i didn't know there was all that shit out there. I hate you bastards even more now.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Crash was that around the same time Moore was having a go at the Argies because they play super rugby and that's why they're shit, because there's no relegation and no consequences?

                                        Well at least we now know why the ABs are shit too.

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                                        @Bones said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                        @Crash was that around the same time Moore was having a go at the Argies because they play super rugby and that's why they're shit, because there's no relegation and no consequences?

                                        Well at least we now know why the ABs are shit too.

                                        It's more a comparison to the Italian question up here, rather than a slight on the Super Rugby situation. They get (or used to at any rate) two guaranteed spots in the European Cup (whatever the title might be now, I forget) with no question of relegation out of the reckoning. There is an argument that the lack of intensity has not helped the Eyeties at national level. The same question could have been levelled at the Scots teams a while back but they seem to have turned that round.

                                        The arguments for and against promotion/relegation make sense from both sides. I'm not sure there is a right or wrong answer.

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                                        • RapidoR Rapido

                                          It's really hard to get from Argentina to NZ. It's like 1 direct flight a week.
                                          Maybe via Sydney is more frequent?

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                                          @Rapido said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                          It's really hard to get from Argentina to NZ. It's like 1 direct flight a week.
                                          Maybe via Sydney is more frequent?

                                          Oh ffs our Super players do it and deal with the travel. It's hardly like they fly cattle class now is it?

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