The Silver Fern

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I didn't see one of these flying over my house today....

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@jegga said in RIP Tiny Hill:

@Catogrande said in RIP Tiny Hill:

@jegga said in RIP Tiny Hill:

@kiwiinmelb said in RIP Tiny Hill:

@Victor-Meldrew said in RIP Tiny Hill:

@kiwiinmelb said in RIP Tiny Hill:

@Bovidae said in RIP Tiny Hill:

A different breed and generation. Tiny Hill was a lock but at 1.88 m and 94kg was shorter and lighter than Rieko.

Backlines now , probably look as big if not bigger than forwards in that era,

I remember as a kid in the late 70s reading the player stats, the heaviest guys in the team were usually the props at 16 stone , that’s 101 kgs

Plenty of tough, hard buggers in those days. And size doesn't come into it.

Red Conway of that era was 86kg and 5' 9" and seriously hard, Had a finger amputated so he go on tour to SA in 1960. Grant Batty at 70kg and 5' 5" was an equally hard bastard. You just can't get away with the sort of stuff they did back then.

Sad, as BBBT would have been in his own personal heaven.

...Elvidge needed four stitches to his forehead, and one arm hung loose from a damaged collarbone, but he returned to the turf of Athletic Park.

The Otago second five-eight moved out to the wing and scored the winning try.

He had also scored in the first test on his Carisbrook home ground.

Elvidge never played for New Zealand again.

“My memory of the game is pretty minimal,” he told the NZ Herald in 2017.

Have to love that quote.

Looks like he had a very dry sense of humour, theres some footage of him playing here

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11838675

That man delivered me into the world!

@Nepia said in Jonah the tv series:

@Nevorian said in Jonah the tv series:

@kiwiinmelb said in Jonah the tv series:

A lot of the polynesian boys get gains very easily from lifting/strength training , bit like the african american athletes,

genetically gifted in that area

Not to mention Jonahs favourite food - the Taro, rich in minerals and protein which may have contributed to his ability to gain strength

Didn't they discover a few years back that it was actually the PI yam that was the steroid of the islands and not Taro?

I read that too .

RIP Ron Elvidge, a great All Black, short playing career but managed to captain the side for 7 of his 19 appearances which says something. Would have had plenty of great stories to tell about rugby in his era I would imagine. Coming back on the field with a collar bone injury and cut face to score a winning try would rank right up there with some of the best

@jegga It'd be a hell of a thing to have to go through and remember. Whenever I fly into Wellington on a calm day the sinking site looks just so tragic for being so close yet so far away in those sea conditions.

Saw this was on near the top of the topics again and thought didn't Keith die last year? Then I thought, perhaps he died again? Coming back from the dead would be a tough task, even for Keith.

BeeGee was an Akl legend but remember two things. In 76 TV polled all the provincial rugby players in NZ and asked them who was the most over-rated player in NZ. BeeGee won(?) by the length of the home straight. I was shocked but TBF he burst onto the scene in 1970 and never quite hit those heights again.

Fully deserving of (overdue) recognition though for everything he's done for Akl Samoa and Ponies.

He did tarnish my impression in 92 after the Akl Ireland game. I was in the West Stand lounge for the announcement of the AB side to play the following Saturday.

Every time a non-Akl players name was read out he would boorishly BOO. Really embarrassing stuff. Clearly enjoyed too much of the sponsors product. Someone had to take him outside.

@kiwiinmelb said in Richie commentates 2015 rwc final:

Watched 5 mins of it , paused it , maybe get back to it later , might put it back on later when we are babysitting the granddaughter and she wont go to bed 😉

one thing I did find interesting ,

We are inside their quarter early , A Smith grubbers behind their line , they clean up easily and take it away , I can remember thinking WTF did you kick it away for , perfect opportunity to mount some pressure etc

Richies says something like , that was something we planned on doing through the week , they covered it pretty well though ,

how many times does that happen ? we blame someone for something that appears stupid, and they are just carrying out the game plan .

Probably every time I make a post during a game.

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I took it as read that the Sports Talk section does what this thread says on the tin.

@jegga said in Sir Michael Jones:

@Crucial I can't remember the swing, do remember as part of the tramp we did some caving too and there was a trip up Tongariro (I think) too on the best day for weather we got.
Someone stuffed up badly for all those people to die so hopefully all the shit they got made them sort out their systems better.

Talking of bungy jumping I see A J Hackett got a gong too.

I followed that case quite closely and it was a major stuff up by anyone it was a combination of little things and decisions that added together lucked out badly. It was easy for people to point the finger and say 'should have done better' but this is obviously an outdoor environment and while risk assessment is done there is also a residual risk that is much higher than normal everyday life. It is that boundary pushing that makes adventure adventurous.
The was no slackness but I think that have probably now added a few extra safety things in like sat phone support in case the unexpected happens and more experienced support is needed.

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11860404

Saw this, good article. Mental health is surprisingly common in elite athletes

Sep 8, 2019  /  Sport Jonny Wilkinson: ‘It took a few years for the pressure to really build. And then it exploded’ | Andy Bull Jonny Wilkinson: ‘It took a few years for the pressure to really build. And then it exploded’ | Andy Bull

Jonny Wilkinson, England’s World Cup winning fly-half, has had a battle depression which no amount of trophies can ease, he tells Andy Bull