ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?
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its also so blatantly self fore filling.....razor bends or changes the rules to get RM back...at +30 years old...clearly with the intent of running him through until the RWC....so another generation of 10's tell themselves its at least another 2-3 years before i get a good shot...fuck it i have bills to pay...pick form the guys we have...pick on form...reward those playing well and playing in NZ
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My impression is that he’s like a CEO that needs a specific XO to be effective (or at least, thinks they do).
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Well said Beaver, even more of a legend
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:
Well said Beaver, even more of a legend
A man who know how to perform on the big stage.
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Still can't over DMac not having the starting reins after a wonderful performance against Ireland.
Compare that to the starting first five performance vs England where I was pulling my hair out
I just don't get it
It's a major point -
This comment from Razor kind of pisses me off
“They’ve got a got a great balance. They’ve got youth coming through, they’ve got great benches, they finish over top of teams and they’ve got big squads – they can have two really quality XVs"
And how do you know we don't Scott?
I just did the tedious process of going through our lineups this year, and the stark reality is, the selectors played the same guys all game every game.
Williams, Taylor, Lomax, Vaai, SBarrett, Savea, BBarrett, DMac JBarrett, and Ioane, all basically started every game this year, and played huge minutes. Cane, Jordan, Clarke and Patty T played every game they were available. Once Sititi took his chance, he played non stop. ALB locked in one bench spot, and started any time JB didn't. EdG was the other one if he didn't be a bit naughty.
Those guys played nearly the whole season in terms of the minutes available. No one else got a reasonable shot at anything. -
This comment from Razor kind of pisses me off
“They’ve got a got a great balance. They’ve got youth coming through, they’ve got great benches, they finish over top of teams and they’ve got big squads – they can have two really quality XVs"
And how do you know we don't Scott?
I just did the tedious process of going through our lineups this year, and the stark reality is, the selectors played the same guys all game every game.
Williams, Taylor, Lomax, Vaai, SBarrett, Savea, BBarrett, DMac JBarrett, and Ioane, all basically started every game this year, and played huge minutes. Cane, Jordan, Clarke and Patty T played every game they were available. Once Sititi took his chance, he played non stop. ALB locked in one bench spot, and started any time JB didn't. EdG was the other one if he didn't be a bit naughty.
Those guys played nearly the whole season in terms of the minutes available. No one else got a reasonable shot at anything.@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
This comment from Razor kind of pisses me off
“They’ve got a got a great balance. They’ve got youth coming through, they’ve got great benches, they finish over top of teams and they’ve got big squads – they can have two really quality XVs"
And how do you know we don't Scott?
I just did the tedious process of going through our lineups this year, and the stark reality is, the selectors played the same guys all game every game.
Williams, Taylor, Lomax, Vaai, SBarrett, Savea, BBarrett, DMac JBarrett, and Ioane, all basically started every game this year, and played huge minutes. Cane, Jordan, Clarke and Patty T played every game they were available. Once Sititi took his chance, he played non stop. ALB locked in one bench spot, and started any time JB didn't. EdG was the other one if he didn't be a bit naughty.
Those guys played nearly the whole season in terms of the minutes available. No one else got a reasonable shot at anything.Most unlike Rassie
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Well said Beaver, even more of a legend
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:
Well said Beaver, even more of a legend
100 % agree with Beaver and good on him for coming out and saying it.Stay in NZ or come back and play in NZ then you get picked.
If you don't you have made your choice the AB jersey is cheapened so are our competitions and the NZ rugby public are shafted if it changes. -
i havent felt a twang of patriotism like that in years. Absolutely beautiful from Beaver
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The two games away in Argentina will be a challenge. We do appear to have a more settled squad than last year, not that many departing other than Sam Cane and TJP. Sounds like Razor is pushing hard for the rules to change, sounds like overtures have been made to Jack Goodhue who has signed on to an extra year. RM and SF were initially who he secked to change the rule for, it appears they are coming back at some stage. LF return will be important as well, he left at a young age.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
One fucking guy prepared to just say what they think. Build a show for the Beaver.
he isnt bad in the media Beaver ,
ive heard him a bit on SENz and he mixes some pretty good analysis with humor quite well , although his sidekick kirsty can be a bit annoying
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I don't always agree with JK, but he's hit the nail on the head this time
The board should issue Razor with a hard no to the overseas player eligibility question. As one poster said, you're either with us or you're not
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Good to read that the five SR CEOs are unanimous in their push-back of Robertson wanting to select from overseas. Their reasons are exactly what has been discussed here.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Good to read that the five SR CEOs are unanimous in their push-back of Robertson wanting to select from overseas. Their reasons are exactly what has been discussed here.
As should be the case.
It also helps a lot when people like Stephen Donald come out and slam the idea in public.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Good to read that the five SR CEOs are unanimous in their push-back of Robertson wanting to select from overseas. Their reasons are exactly what has been discussed here.
As should be the case.
It also helps a lot when people like Stephen Donald come out and slam the idea in public.
@African-Monkey if a man can be called up from a waikato river whitebaiting, in NZ and win the rwc for the ABs, anyone else in nz can, don't need no overseas turncoats
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@African-Monkey if a man can be called up from a waikato river whitebaiting, in NZ and win the rwc for the ABs, anyone else in nz can, don't need no overseas turncoats
@taniwharugby said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
@African-Monkey if a man can be called up from a waikato river whitebaiting, in NZ and win the rwc for the ABs, anyone else in nz can, don't need no overseas turncoats
Damn straight!
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@African-Monkey if a man can be called up from a waikato river whitebaiting, in NZ and win the rwc for the ABs, anyone else in nz can, don't need no overseas turncoats
@taniwharugby said in ABs picking overseas players - inevitable?:
@African-Monkey if a man can be called up from a waikato river whitebaiting, in NZ and win the rwc for the ABs, anyone else in nz can, don't need no overseas turncoats
Yep, and previous to that a man was called up skate boarding in Palmy.
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If it is decided that this plan does or does not go ahead, measures will need to be taken to ensure player retention at Kiwi franchises, whether that be allowing more money, or even opening the competion to allow more foreign marquee players. One resource that is untapped are Kiwis playing in Aussie Super rugby teams, surely a few of these players could be in All Black contention.
