All Blacks 2025
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It's hard to get your head around why the folks in charge of New Zealand Rugby have misread the room so badly in recent months.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
It's hard to get your head around why the folks in charge of New Zealand Rugby have misread the room so badly in recent months.
More often than not NZR have been arrogant and tone deaf. But we are not winning regularly so the cracks are appearing
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Yep, it really feels like we have lost our All Blacks to the corporate world and perhaps for good.
How do we get them back?
Maybe it's time I got more into League? It doesn't seem so full of the bullshit that's polluted NZR and has become its new DNA.
Um, league is all corporate bullshit, I'm a fan, for my sins I watch the Warriors every week and appear to be one of the few who cares about the Kiwis
, but it's an Aussie corporate venture, it's just in a bigger market so more successful currently.Surely a game in the states can't be more profitable for NZR than a home test? Unless they get some sort of sponsorship deal for it?
@Kiwiwomble Or alternatively it's a spiteful move against the grassroots peeps in the provinces for stopping NZRs plans?
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Yep, it really feels like we have lost our All Blacks to the corporate world and perhaps for good.
How do we get them back?
Maybe it's time I got more into League? It doesn't seem so full of the bullshit that's polluted NZR and has become its new DNA.
Um, league is all corporate bullshit, I'm a fan, for my sins I watch the Warriors every week and appear to be one of the few who cares about the Kiwis
, but it's an Aussie corporate venture, it's just in a bigger market so more successful currently.Surely a game in the states can't be more profitable for NZR than a home test? Unless they get some sort of sponsorship deal for it?
@Kiwiwomble Or alternatively it's a spiteful move against the grassroots peeps in the provinces for stopping NZRs plans?
Yeah…I was being facetious
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DMac flyhalf
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Yep, it really feels like we have lost our All Blacks to the corporate world and perhaps for good.
How do we get them back?
Maybe it's time I got more into League? It doesn't seem so full of the bullshit that's polluted NZR and has become its new DNA.
Um, league is all corporate bullshit, I'm a fan, for my sins I watch the Warriors every week and appear to be one of the few who cares about the Kiwis
, but it's an Aussie corporate venture, it's just in a bigger market so more successful currently.Surely a game in the states can't be more profitable for NZR than a home test? Unless they get some sort of sponsorship deal for it?
@Kiwiwomble Or alternatively it's a spiteful move against the grassroots peeps in the provinces for stopping NZRs plans?
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look, i don't want to jump off the deep end here
lol who am i kidding, yeah i do
what in teh actual fuck? Between Razor dead keen on eroding the very fabric of the game, to the NZRU being hell bent on removing opportunities for NZ AB fans to see them play by taking AB games away from NZ, it looks very much like too many people at HQ no longer see the ABs as the team of the people of NZ, they are just another commercial franchise.
@mariner4life remove the ABs from NPC, now remove the ABs from NZ....
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@mariner4life remove the ABs from NPC, now remove the ABs from NZ....
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@mariner4life remove the ABs from NPC, now remove the ABs from NZ....
we are reaping the end game of NZR putting all the eggs in the AB basket.
NPC is a pale shadow of its former self. Ditto Super - used to be the best domestic comp in the world; now it's not preparing people for tests. So if the ABs stop winning, the whole structure falls down.
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It is far from ideal to be taking tests offshore, but I would suggest it is the commercial realities of wanting to keep the ABs individual players from going offshore. The figures to play in Las Vegas vs Roto Vegas I am sure are eye-watering.
I don't actually believe NZR are hate NZ Rugby fans, but between the Silverlake Deal and trying to achieve the financial realities to compete with Japan it is the lesser of two evils. If they didn't do such things, I suspect the players would head offshore in droves, the quality of Super Rugby would suffer, and the game would take severe steps backwards in this country.
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DMac flyhalf
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:
DMac flyhalf
He's going to the NH? There's an exodus thread for that
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Just get it to the Philly/Baltimore/DC corridor! My family and I would be THRILLED to see a meaningful AB test here. We wouldn't walk across the street to see them lay 90 points on some minnow (like the USA).
@EmericanAB said in All Blacks 2025:
Just get it to the Philly/Baltimore/DC corridor! My family and I would be THRILLED to see a meaningful AB test here. We wouldn't walk across the street to see them lay 90 points on some minnow (like the USA).
Yeah that would be nice. Good trip on the bikes down from Ottawa.
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I'd expect NZR to do a much better job explaining the benefits of such decisions in terms of outcomes for the NZ rugby public.
Because I don't give a flying fuck that Americans get to watch the All Blacks.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:
DMac flyhalf
He's going to the NH? There's an exodus thread for that
@Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.
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@Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.
@game_film said in All Blacks 2025:
@Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.
Great. So by the time we get to RWC 27 we could be sans Plummer and DMac, and BB should be totally cooked by then. Razor better hope that RM comes back as good or better than he left
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@Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.
@game_film said in All Blacks 2025:
@Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.
So un demi d'ouverture not flyhalf.
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@game_film said in All Blacks 2025:
@Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.
So un demi d'ouverture not flyhalf.
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@game_film said in All Blacks 2025:
@Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.
Great. So by the time we get to RWC 27 we could be sans Plummer and DMac, and BB should be totally cooked by then. Razor better hope that RM comes back as good or better than he left
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I think these money making tests need to be an ABs XV team, maybe 10-15 players from the fringe ABs squad, an extra on top of our July home tests.
