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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @mariner4life remove the ABs from NPC, now remove the ABs from NZ....

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @mariner4life remove the ABs from NPC, now remove the ABs from NZ....

    we are reaping the end game of NZR putting all the eggs in the AB basket.

    NPC is a pale shadow of its former self. Ditto Super - used to be the best domestic comp in the world; now it's not preparing people for tests. So if the ABs stop winning, the whole structure falls down.

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      It is far from ideal to be taking tests offshore, but I would suggest it is the commercial realities of wanting to keep the ABs individual players from going offshore. The figures to play in Las Vegas vs Roto Vegas I am sure are eye-watering.

      I don't actually believe NZR are hate NZ Rugby fans, but between the Silverlake Deal and trying to achieve the financial realities to compete with Japan it is the lesser of two evils. If they didn't do such things, I suspect the players would head offshore in droves, the quality of Super Rugby would suffer, and the game would take severe steps backwards in this country.

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      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

        DMac flyhalf

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        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

        DMac flyhalf

        He's going to the NH? There's an exodus thread for that

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          I think these money making tests need to be an ABs XV team, maybe 10-15 players from the fringe ABs squad, an extra on top of our July home tests.

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            Just get it to the Philly/Baltimore/DC corridor! My family and I would be THRILLED to see a meaningful AB test here. We wouldn't walk across the street to see them lay 90 points on some minnow (like the USA).

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            @EmericanAB said in All Blacks 2025:

            Just get it to the Philly/Baltimore/DC corridor! My family and I would be THRILLED to see a meaningful AB test here. We wouldn't walk across the street to see them lay 90 points on some minnow (like the USA).

            Yeah that would be nice. Good trip on the bikes down from Ottawa.

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              I'd expect NZR to do a much better job explaining the benefits of such decisions in terms of outcomes for the NZ rugby public.

              Because I don't give a flying fuck that Americans get to watch the All Blacks.

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                @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                DMac flyhalf

                He's going to the NH? There's an exodus thread for that

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                @Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.

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                  @Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.

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                  @game_film said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.

                  Great. So by the time we get to RWC 27 we could be sans Plummer and DMac, and BB should be totally cooked by then. Razor better hope that RM comes back as good or better than he left

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                    @Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.

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                    @game_film said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.

                    So un demi d'ouverture not flyhalf.

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                        @game_film said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.

                        So un demi d'ouverture not flyhalf.

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                        @Bones Oui. And he’ll be playing for a future AB coach as well.

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                          @game_film said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Machpants La Rochelle was the rumour after his contract is up next year. But he’s available for all 2025 games…. I believe.

                          Great. So by the time we get to RWC 27 we could be sans Plummer and DMac, and BB should be totally cooked by then. Razor better hope that RM comes back as good or better than he left

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                          @canefan I think DMac will only sign short term so he’ll be back. Crying shame if his RWC career was missing 19 then being a bench warmer in 2023.

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                            I think these money making tests need to be an ABs XV team, maybe 10-15 players from the fringe ABs squad, an extra on top of our July home tests.

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                            @BorderJB that's pretty much how the french will be treating these games anyway

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                              If the ABs do adopt a new policy for sabbaticals allowing players to spend a full year away (perhaps two) and still be eligible for selection (as discussed in the article posted in another thread), Dmac may be the first to take advantage of it.

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                                If the ABs do adopt a new policy for sabbaticals allowing players to spend a full year away (perhaps two) and still be eligible for selection (as discussed in the article posted in another thread), Dmac may be the first to take advantage of it.

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                                  It is far from ideal to be taking tests offshore, but I would suggest it is the commercial realities of wanting to keep the ABs individual players from going offshore. The figures to play in Las Vegas vs Roto Vegas I am sure are eye-watering.

                                  I don't actually believe NZR are hate NZ Rugby fans, but between the Silverlake Deal and trying to achieve the financial realities to compete with Japan it is the lesser of two evils. If they didn't do such things, I suspect the players would head offshore in droves, the quality of Super Rugby would suffer, and the game would take severe steps backwards in this country.

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                                  @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  It is far from ideal to be taking tests offshore, but I would suggest it is the commercial realities of wanting to keep the ABs individual players from going offshore. The figures to play in Las Vegas vs Roto Vegas I am sure are eye-watering.

                                  I don't actually believe NZR are hate NZ Rugby fans, but between the Silverlake Deal and trying to achieve the financial realities to compete with Japan it is the lesser of two evils. If they didn't do such things, I suspect the players would head offshore in droves, the quality of Super Rugby would suffer, and the game would take severe steps backwards in this country.

                                  You and your "logic and reasoning".

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                                    I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

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                                      I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                                      Yes to the latter, no to the former..... form should fucking count, not form from two years ago. Hopefully he learns that.

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                                        I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

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                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                                        If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

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                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                                          If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

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                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          I hope Robertson picks Hoskins Sotutu next year and fewer shit Cantabs and old men.

                                          If he didn’t this year he won’t next year. Hoskins was literally Super player of the year and still didn’t get a look in.

                                          Remember, to play the ABs DNA way requires you to be playing overseas...
                                          ... Or be injured

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