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  • gt12G gt12

    The messages the coaches are sending to the players is the problem here.

    That’s two next level players (who both might have strong international capability) leaving in two weeks.

    Something’s a bit rotten if you’ve got players giving up and bolting like this. From a Chiefs perspective I’m pissed as Stevenson is a great piece after being very rocks and diamonds, but the Plummer one is more concerning. Of course, this is after losing Akira and (rumored) Sotutu.

    These coaches need to make an effort to get out of their Crusader bubble as they are contributing to the reduction in player quality.

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    @gt12 said in Exodus:

    The messages the coaches are sending to the players is the problem here.

    That’s two next level players (who both might have strong international capability) leaving in two weeks.

    Something’s a bit rotten if you’ve got players giving up and bolting like this. From a Chiefs perspective I’m pissed as Stevenson is a great piece after being very rocks and diamonds, but the Plummer one is more concerning. Of course, this is after losing Akira and (rumored) Sotutu.

    These coaches need to make an effort to get out of their Crusader bubble as they are contributing to the reduction in player quality.

    Players heading overseas is as old as the sun. It’s hardly a new crisis. I remember schuster Gallagher and Ridge back in the day.

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @Bones said in Exodus:

      Reckon Fihaki was probably Razor's bid for an inspired pick, praying to every god that he would look a genius even though there was only like one game where he even looked quality in SR.

      Nareki was robbed.

      So were Stevenson, Nanai-Seturo and even Naholo. They were all better than Fihaki in Super. Fihaki was well down the pecking order, crazy the fact he was called up at all.

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      @Canes4life said in Exodus:

      So were Stevenson, Nanai-Seturo and even Naholo. They were all better than Fihaki in Super. Fihaki was well down the pecking order, crazy the fact he was called up at all.

      It is ok, they're were from the smaller and far less important North Island..

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Canes4life said in Exodus:

        @Bones said in Exodus:

        Reckon Fihaki was probably Razor's bid for an inspired pick, praying to every god that he would look a genius even though there was only like one game where he even looked quality in SR.

        Nareki was robbed.

        So were Stevenson, Nanai-Seturo and even Naholo. They were all better than Fihaki in Super. Fihaki was well down the pecking order, crazy the fact he was called up at all.

        Nuance fella, someone was asking for outrage from highlanders...

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        @Bones said in Exodus:

        @Canes4life said in Exodus:

        @Bones said in Exodus:

        Reckon Fihaki was probably Razor's bid for an inspired pick, praying to every god that he would look a genius even though there was only like one game where he even looked quality in SR.

        Nareki was robbed.

        So were Stevenson, Nanai-Seturo and even Naholo. They were all better than Fihaki in Super. Fihaki was well down the pecking order, crazy the fact he was called up at all.

        Nuance fella, someone was asking for outrage from highlanders...

        This is the sort of response you get when I don't read the thread.

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          Faletoi Peni ( Southland) and Simon Peter Toleafoa ( Counties Manukau) have both signed with the New England free jacks for the coming season

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @Bones said in Exodus:

            @Canes4life said in Exodus:

            @Bones said in Exodus:

            Reckon Fihaki was probably Razor's bid for an inspired pick, praying to every god that he would look a genius even though there was only like one game where he even looked quality in SR.

            Nareki was robbed.

            So were Stevenson, Nanai-Seturo and even Naholo. They were all better than Fihaki in Super. Fihaki was well down the pecking order, crazy the fact he was called up at all.

            Nuance fella, someone was asking for outrage from highlanders...

            This is the sort of response you get when I don't read the thread.

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            @Canes4life said in Exodus:

            Nuance fella, someone was asking for outrage from highlanders...

            This is the sort of response you get when I don't read the thread.

            I'm not sure, given they chose Mark Hammett as assistant coach, there is much that can outrage Highlanders* any more.

            *Ooops, nearly typed Huglanders.

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @Billy-Tell said in Exodus:

              Don’t think he has what it takes to be an AB winger. A bit of a one season wonder.

              Doesn't assault his missus or drunkenly drive cars into garages.

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              @Nepia said in Exodus:

              @Billy-Tell said in Exodus:

              Don’t think he has what it takes to be an AB winger. A bit of a one season wonder.

              Doesn't assault his missus or drunkenly drive cars into garages.

              This goes to the heart of the problem. A good coach would work with him to improve his abilities in these key areas.

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              • Landers92L Do not disturb
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                Bit slack on my end but after chatting with a contact about the Stevenson situation a couple days ago, I was told there are a few more in similar situations that are seriously considering moving on early.

                Not exactly ground breaking I know as there are players that happen to move on every year. The concerning part is it’s beginning to become more common that they are ones that are close to AB contention or young ABs.

                Thought it was worth a share. Will continued to fire it in as I hear more.

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                  Faletoi Peni ( Southland) and Simon Peter Toleafoa ( Counties Manukau) have both signed with the New England free jacks for the coming season

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                  @Kiwidom Manukau Rovers 2022 & 2023 Gallagher shield winning first five & fullback

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                  • Landers92L Landers92

                    Bit slack on my end but after chatting with a contact about the Stevenson situation a couple days ago, I was told there are a few more in similar situations that are seriously considering moving on early.

                    Not exactly ground breaking I know as there are players that happen to move on every year. The concerning part is it’s beginning to become more common that they are ones that are close to AB contention or young ABs.

                    Thought it was worth a share. Will continued to fire it in as I hear more.

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                    @Landers92 said in Exodus:

                    Bit slack on my end but after chatting with a contact about the Stevenson situation a couple days ago, I was told there are a few more in similar situations that are seriously considering moving on early.

                    Not exactly ground breaking I know as there are players that happen to move on every year. The concerning part is it’s beginning to become more common that they are ones that are close to AB contention or young ABs.

                    Thought it was worth a share. Will continued to fire it in as I hear more.

                    It's so hard to get a look in these days especially with guys there who never get dropped due to their contracts. Apart from Mo'unga, Fai'anganuku and Frizzell who are all coming back from overseas and not just to play SR, who else is likely to break into this ABs side from now to the next WC? Chay Fihaki is one. Anyone else/.

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                      Christian Lio Willie

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                        Christian Lio Willie

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                        @ARHS said in Exodus:

                        Christian Lio Willie

                        Read that out of context. Thought you were suggesting he was joining the Exodus.

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                          No sorry. Just the effort from Razor to get him involved with the AB squad as with Fihaki.

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                            Christian Lio Willie

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                            @ARHS said in Exodus:

                            Christian Lio Willie

                            Poor man's Sititi.

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                              37-yr old Christian Lealiifano is off to LA in MLR.

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                                More smoke from the Sotutu inferno

                                https://www.planetrugby.com/news/hoskins-sotutu-england-rumours-continue-to-swirl-with-premiership-club-leading-the-chase-for-blues-stars-signature-report

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                                  More smoke from the Sotutu inferno

                                  https://www.planetrugby.com/news/hoskins-sotutu-england-rumours-continue-to-swirl-with-premiership-club-leading-the-chase-for-blues-stars-signature-report

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                                  @Machpants said in Exodus:

                                  More smoke from the Sotutu inferno

                                  https://www.planetrugby.com/news/hoskins-sotutu-england-rumours-continue-to-swirl-with-premiership-club-leading-the-chase-for-blues-stars-signature-report

                                  Good luck to him. One man's rubbish is another man's treasure. He deserves better

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                                    Vilimoni Koroi off to the states for the upcoming season to join the Nola Gold.

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                                        Smiler-Ah Kiong has been on the fringes of the Waikato squad in the past few seasons without ever making the main NPC squad. Played in Portugal in the off-season in 2023 as the TA Sports coach took a few of their players there. I didn't realise he was loaned to KC this year until the Sky Fans Try of the Year was announced.

                                        Speaking of former Waikato players, I see that Tana Tuhakaraina is now with the Urayasu D-Rocks in Japan. That explains why he wasn't involved in the NPC.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          Smiler-Ah Kiong has been on the fringes of the Waikato squad in the past few seasons without ever making the main NPC squad. Played in Portugal in the off-season in 2023 as the TA Sports coach took a few of their players there. I didn't realise he was loaned to KC this year until the Sky Fans Try of the Year was announced.

                                          Speaking of former Waikato players, I see that Tana Tuhakaraina is now with the Urayasu D-Rocks in Japan. That explains why he wasn't involved in the NPC.

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                                          @Bovidae said in Exodus:

                                          TA Sports coach took a few of their players there

                                          Travis Church is the coach there at Two-Blues as well.

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