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All Blacks 2025

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    There might be some cheap used Ford Rangers on the market soon. Ford is ending their sponsorship.

    Ford confirmed the end of its New Zealand rugby sponsorship, stating, "We are incredibly proud to have been a sponsor of the All Blacks and NZ Rugby for over 30 years. However, the decision has been made to conclude our partnership in 2025." They expressed disappointment at the separation but reflected positively on their experience, acknowledging the strong relationships forged with athletes and fans alike. In their farewell, Ford assured support for players during the transition period.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    There might be some cheap used Ford Rangers on the market soon. Ford is ending their sponsorship.

    Ford confirmed the end of its New Zealand rugby sponsorship, stating, "We are incredibly proud to have been a sponsor of the All Blacks and NZ Rugby for over 30 years. However, the decision has been made to conclude our partnership in 2025." They expressed disappointment at the separation but reflected positively on their experience, acknowledging the strong relationships forged with athletes and fans alike. In their farewell, Ford assured support for players during the transition period.

    Plummer, Sotutu, Stevenson, Ford. What wont Razor chase away? 😉

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      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

      I not huge fan of Razor or otherwise, he's got the job (like Foster before) so has my complete support. The one thing I will say about his so called sticking with old players, I would of picked both Cane and TJ myself, this crap about just building for WCs, I personally disagree with.

      but it wasn't just that for WC-building, but beyond this year! And Cane came back from Japan so really got a special gold card entry into the team! Were the Cane and TJP picks the best for this year, looking back? Sounds like the beginning of a hotly contested Fern thread. But they certainly are not helping 2025 All Blacks..

      I think Cane especially was like Henry bringing the Suitcase back into the team as much for his value off the field. But, Cane actually did a fairly decent job on the field this year if anti-Cane blinkers are removed.

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      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

      I not huge fan of Razor or otherwise, he's got the job (like Foster before) so has my complete support. The one thing I will say about his so called sticking with old players, I would of picked both Cane and TJ myself, this crap about just building for WCs, I personally disagree with.

      but it wasn't just that for WC-building, but beyond this year! And Cane came back from Japan so really got a special gold card entry into the team! Were the Cane and TJP picks the best for this year, looking back? Sounds like the beginning of a hotly contested Fern thread. But they certainly are not helping 2025 All Blacks..

      I think Cane especially was like Henry bringing the Suitcase back into the team as much for his value off the field. But, Cane actually did a fairly decent job on the field this year if anti-Cane blinkers are removed.

      yeah, happy to admit cane played well, my argument this year it seemed really shirt sited though, just wanting to win (not sure he was even the different between winning and losing)..you know?...could these have been games where someone else got the much vaulted experience

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        I am curious to see what changes are going to take place in the midfield. I hope AJ Lam will keep on developing and be a real contender for the starting XV. The presence of of big munter (à la TUJ or T. Telea) could add something different.

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        • C cgrant

          I am curious to see what changes are going to take place in the midfield. I hope AJ Lam will keep on developing and be a real contender for the starting XV. The presence of of big munter (à la TUJ or T. Telea) could add something different.

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          @cgrant do you think Razor will drop a Barrett?

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @cgrant do you think Razor will drop a Barrett?

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            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

            @cgrant do you think Razor will drop a Barrett?

            No, but he'd drop an Ioane

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @cgrant do you think Razor will drop a Barrett?

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              @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

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              • frugbyF frugby

                @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

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                @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

                I'm picking Higgins to be the big mover in 2025, not many centres in NZ have the ability to use footwork and the offload like he does to open up opposition defence structures. A big work on for him though is his defence, Super will be a good test to see where he's at.

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                • frugbyF frugby

                  @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

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                  @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

                  I think New Zealand need to end their fixation with the Barretts. On form this year Jordie was pretty rubbish both for the Canes and ABs, Barrett was mediocre and S Barrett was the same. We won't get back to our best until we start picking players on form, not past reputation which B Barrett has been dining out on for years now.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

                    I think New Zealand need to end their fixation with the Barretts. On form this year Jordie was pretty rubbish both for the Canes and ABs, Barrett was mediocre and S Barrett was the same. We won't get back to our best until we start picking players on form, not past reputation which B Barrett has been dining out on for years now.

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                    @Canes4life hopefully JB can rediscover something in Ireland, because I agree he's regressed over the last year or so. Or does Razor's pattern have something to do with it?

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                      Yeah when JB was looking good for Canes/ABs, it was when he was being used as a second five, not as a lock in the backline.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        Yeah when JB was looking good for Canes/ABs, it was when he was being used as a second five, not as a lock in the backline.

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                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Yeah when JB was looking good for Canes/ABs, it was when he was being used as a second five, not as a lock in the backline.

                        Razor has many work ons

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                        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                          I actually heard Razor is pushing for the ABs to be sponsored by Canterbury Drought and Canterbury Clothing, hence Steinlager pulling the pin because they are feeling they are not getting a decent opportunity to show what they can do. Adidas are getting the jitters because Ryan feels fat in their clothes and is more comfortable wearing CCC. And Hansen hates Rangers and loves motorbikes, so the ABs will be riding around on Britten's soon.

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                          @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                          I actually heard Razor is pushing for the ABs to be sponsored by Canterbury Drought

                          Hopefully not

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                          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                            I actually heard Razor is pushing for the ABs to be sponsored by Canterbury Drought

                            Hopefully not

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                            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                            I actually heard Razor is pushing for the ABs to be sponsored by Canterbury Drought

                            Hopefully not

                            Wooooosh

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                              I actually heard Razor is pushing for the ABs to be sponsored by Canterbury Drought

                              Hopefully not

                              Wooooosh

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                              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                              I actually heard Razor is pushing for the ABs to be sponsored by Canterbury Drought

                              Hopefully not

                              Wooooosh

                              Look at the spelling

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                                I actually heard Razor is pushing for the ABs to be sponsored by Canterbury Drought

                                Hopefully not

                                Wooooosh

                                Look at the spelling

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                                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                                I actually heard Razor is pushing for the ABs to be sponsored by Canterbury Drought

                                Hopefully not

                                Wooooosh

                                Look at the spelling

                                Wooshed myself! Classic

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

                                  I think New Zealand need to end their fixation with the Barretts. On form this year Jordie was pretty rubbish both for the Canes and ABs, Barrett was mediocre and S Barrett was the same. We won't get back to our best until we start picking players on form, not past reputation which B Barrett has been dining out on for years now.

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                                  @Canes4life
                                  Still plenty to offer, but not automatic selections.
                                  DMac not starting v France totally baffling and not rational.

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                                    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

                                    I'm picking Higgins to be the big mover in 2025, not many centres in NZ have the ability to use footwork and the offload like he does to open up opposition defence structures. A big work on for him though is his defence, Super will be a good test to see where he's at.

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                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

                                    I'm picking Higgins to be the big mover in 2025, not many centres in NZ have the ability to use footwork and the offload like he does to open up opposition defence structures. A big work on for him though is his defence, Super will be a good test to see where he's at.

                                    Its way too easy to be an 80-100 cap Allblack these days.

                                    The natural churn owing to the continuous production line of talent and ruthless selection scalpel if form dipped are a thing of the past. There is too much incumbency rendering podcasts and shows like the breakdown irrelevant. You can talk about bolters all you want, but it just doesnt happen as much as it should any more.

                                    Think of Nonu missing 2007 RWC, Dagg missing 2015 RWC or Joe Rokocoko missing the 2005 Lions tour.

                                    The last two coaching set ups wouldnt have had the heart to drop them.

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                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

                                      I'm picking Higgins to be the big mover in 2025, not many centres in NZ have the ability to use footwork and the offload like he does to open up opposition defence structures. A big work on for him though is his defence, Super will be a good test to see where he's at.

                                      Its way too easy to be an 80-100 cap Allblack these days.

                                      The natural churn owing to the continuous production line of talent and ruthless selection scalpel if form dipped are a thing of the past. There is too much incumbency rendering podcasts and shows like the breakdown irrelevant. You can talk about bolters all you want, but it just doesnt happen as much as it should any more.

                                      Think of Nonu missing 2007 RWC, Dagg missing 2015 RWC or Joe Rokocoko missing the 2005 Lions tour.

                                      The last two coaching set ups wouldnt have had the heart to drop them.

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                                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      The natural churn owing to the continuous production line of talent and ruthless selection scalpel if form dipped are a thing of the past.

                                      That has been an issue for 20+ years now...harder to get dropped from the team than into it.

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        The natural churn owing to the continuous production line of talent and ruthless selection scalpel if form dipped are a thing of the past.

                                        That has been an issue for 20+ years now...harder to get dropped from the team than into it.

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                                        @taniwharugby Chay Fihaki?

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                                        • JetJ Jet

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

                                          I'm picking Higgins to be the big mover in 2025, not many centres in NZ have the ability to use footwork and the offload like he does to open up opposition defence structures. A big work on for him though is his defence, Super will be a good test to see where he's at.

                                          Its way too easy to be an 80-100 cap Allblack these days.

                                          The natural churn owing to the continuous production line of talent and ruthless selection scalpel if form dipped are a thing of the past. There is too much incumbency rendering podcasts and shows like the breakdown irrelevant. You can talk about bolters all you want, but it just doesnt happen as much as it should any more.

                                          Think of Nonu missing 2007 RWC, Dagg missing 2015 RWC or Joe Rokocoko missing the 2005 Lions tour.

                                          The last two coaching set ups wouldnt have had the heart to drop them.

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                                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @nzzp No, but there is a world, where Jordie Barrett ends back up at fullback I reckon. We have uncertainty at 15, naturally Higgins and Proctor will probably rip it up in the midfield for the Canes etc. etc.

                                          I'm picking Higgins to be the big mover in 2025, not many centres in NZ have the ability to use footwork and the offload like he does to open up opposition defence structures. A big work on for him though is his defence, Super will be a good test to see where he's at.

                                          Its way too easy to be an 80-100 cap Allblack these days.

                                          The natural churn owing to the continuous production line of talent and ruthless selection scalpel if form dipped are a thing of the past. There is too much incumbency rendering podcasts and shows like the breakdown irrelevant. You can talk about bolters all you want, but it just doesnt happen as much as it should any more.

                                          Think of Nonu missing 2007 RWC, Dagg missing 2015 RWC or Joe Rokocoko missing the 2005 Lions tour.

                                          The last two coaching set ups wouldnt have had the heart to drop them.

                                          Julian Savea was another one. The moment he went less dynamic than he had been he was GOOOOOOONE

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