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  • sparkyS sparky

    @Canes4life It would be good to have him as injury cover at 11 for Caleb Clarke. He might do a job ahead of ALB as a midfield impact off the bench, but Billy Proctor and Quinn Tupaea are likely to be in the mix too.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Canes4life It would be good to have him as injury cover at 11 for Caleb Clarke. He might do a job ahead of ALB as a midfield impact off the bench, but Billy Proctor and Quinn Tupaea are likely to be in the mix too.

    I have had one eye on Tupea since he game back from that horrific injury and I like what I see.

    Has a bit of mongrel in him and carries with real spite.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      I have no problem with Leicester being in consideration once he is eligible for the ABs

      However - I would have an issue with him leap frogging consistent domestic performers in the midfield who don't get an opportunity at test level.

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

      I have no problem with Leicester being in consideration once he is eligible for the ABs

      However - I would have an issue with him leap frogging consistent domestic performers in the midfield who don't get an opportunity at test level.

      Yep. There has to be consequences for abandoning the ship.

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      • J Jet

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Canes4life It would be good to have him as injury cover at 11 for Caleb Clarke. He might do a job ahead of ALB as a midfield impact off the bench, but Billy Proctor and Quinn Tupaea are likely to be in the mix too.

        I have had one eye on Tupea since he game back from that horrific injury and I like what I see.

        Has a bit of mongrel in him and carries with real spite.

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        @Jet He was responsible for a late turnover against the Boks which was one of our last victories against the old foe. I can remember reminding Fozzie of this when he signed my hat when the All Blacks visited the Sunshine Coast.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Nepia He's only not eligible because NZR say so. I'm saying he should at least be allowed to train with the squad next year and maybe be considered for some of the Tests next year (e.g. the EOYT). There are precedents for this happening with returning players.

          Yeah, and so what? It's up to NZR to determine who is eligible.

          Why should NZR have to pay the costs of having an ineligible player train with the squad? And if he negotiates a deal with NZR to be eligible on the EOYT then good on him, but as it currently stands he isn't eligible because he chose to go to the NH on a permanent contract.

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          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Nepia He's only not eligible because NZR say so. I'm saying he should at least be allowed to train with the squad next year and maybe be considered for some of the Tests next year (e.g. the EOYT). There are precedents for this happening with returning players.

          Yeah, and so what? It's up to NZR to determine who is eligible.

          Why should NZR have to pay the costs of having an ineligible player train with the squad? And if he negotiates a deal with NZR to be eligible on the EOYT then good on him, but as it currently stands he isn't eligible because he chose to go to the NH on a permanent contract.

          Can’t see much uptime for either party so LF can train with the ABs.

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            https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.

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            @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

            https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.

            Lol that fat fuck was cut for a reason

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            • J Jet

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Canes4life It would be good to have him as injury cover at 11 for Caleb Clarke. He might do a job ahead of ALB as a midfield impact off the bench, but Billy Proctor and Quinn Tupaea are likely to be in the mix too.

              I have had one eye on Tupea since he game back from that horrific injury and I like what I see.

              Has a bit of mongrel in him and carries with real spite.

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              @Jet Quinn Tupaea should have been ahead of ALB in the All Black pecking order this year.

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              • sparkyS sparky

                @Jet Quinn Tupaea should have been ahead of ALB in the All Black pecking order this year.

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                @sparky He has had a rough run, the chiefs midfield is deceptively competitive as well. Would love to see him become the front running 12/13 utility that ALB has had locked down for a while

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                  @sparky He has had a rough run, the chiefs midfield is deceptively competitive as well. Would love to see him become the front running 12/13 utility that ALB has had locked down for a while

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                  @DurryMexted Jordie Barrett is going to be running on fumes at best after completing a Southern Hemisphere rugby season, then a Northern Hemisphere rugby season back to back. We are going to need a new 12 for part of 2025 and Quinn Tupaea could be that player.

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                    The thing I like about Tupaea as a sub is that he is really pretty strong on the breakdown turnover, and coming on fresh with a few tired legs in the opposition getting to the rucks just a little slower should create a few opportunities.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.

                      Lol that fat fuck was cut for a reason

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.

                      Lol that fat fuck was cut for a reason

                      Leagues version of Levi Aumua.

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                      • J Jet

                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Canes4life It would be good to have him as injury cover at 11 for Caleb Clarke. He might do a job ahead of ALB as a midfield impact off the bench, but Billy Proctor and Quinn Tupaea are likely to be in the mix too.

                        I have had one eye on Tupea since he game back from that horrific injury and I like what I see.

                        Has a bit of mongrel in him and carries with real spite.

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                        @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Canes4life It would be good to have him as injury cover at 11 for Caleb Clarke. He might do a job ahead of ALB as a midfield impact off the bench, but Billy Proctor and Quinn Tupaea are likely to be in the mix too.

                        I have had one eye on Tupea since he game back from that horrific injury and I like what I see.

                        Has a bit of mongrel in him and carries with real spite.

                        His carrying has certainly improved. The ABs tried to use him as a carrier in 2021, and he looked a bit uncomfortable doing it, where as now, he does it without applying the handbrake.

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                          Would be happy to see Tupaea as an alternative to the current midfield options which never seem to change

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                            Bovidae
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                            McMillan needs to start Tupaea at 12 for the Chiefs first. Not doing that in the SR playoffs was a mistake.

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                              There is an incredible number of possible pairings in midfield :
                              JB - Ioane
                              JB - ALB
                              ALB - Ioane
                              JB - Proctor
                              ALB - Proctor
                              JB - AJ Lam
                              AJ Lam - Ioane
                              AJ Lam - Proctor
                              AJ Lam - ALB
                              ALB - AJ Lam
                              Higgins - Ioane
                              Higgins - Proctor
                              Higgins - ALB
                              Higgins - AJ Lam
                              Tupaea - Ioane
                              Tupaea - Proctor
                              Tupaea - AJ Lam
                              Tupaea - ALB

                              If you add LF in that mix, then the number of possibilities would get even higher.

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                                There is an incredible number of possible pairings in midfield :
                                JB - Ioane
                                JB - ALB
                                ALB - Ioane
                                JB - Proctor
                                ALB - Proctor
                                JB - AJ Lam
                                AJ Lam - Ioane
                                AJ Lam - Proctor
                                AJ Lam - ALB
                                ALB - AJ Lam
                                Higgins - Ioane
                                Higgins - Proctor
                                Higgins - ALB
                                Higgins - AJ Lam
                                Tupaea - Ioane
                                Tupaea - Proctor
                                Tupaea - AJ Lam
                                Tupaea - ALB

                                If you add LF in that mix, then the number of possibilities would get even higher.

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                                Duluth
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                                @cgrant

                                ..and Havili is currently rated higher than 3 of those 12's you listed

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                                • A African Monkey

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.

                                  Lol that fat fuck was cut for a reason

                                  Leagues version of Levi Aumua.

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                                  Nepia
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                                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.

                                  Lol that fat fuck was cut for a reason

                                  Leagues version of Levi Aumua.

                                  Piss off, Aumua is actually good ... unless you're the Cantabs and don't know how to use him.

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                                  • J Jet

                                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    I have no problem with Leicester being in consideration once he is eligible for the ABs

                                    However - I would have an issue with him leap frogging consistent domestic performers in the midfield who don't get an opportunity at test level.

                                    Yep. There has to be consequences for abandoning the ship.

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                                    nostrildamus
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                                    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Yep. There has to be consequences for abandoning the ship.

                                    Different strokes for different Crusaders* folks.

                                    *Shannon Michael Frizell appears to have been adopted by the RnB.

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                                      @cgrant

                                      ..and Havili is currently rated higher than 3 of those 12's you listed

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                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @cgrant

                                      ..and Havili is currently rated higher than 3 of those 12's you listed

                                      I completely forgot him ...

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                                        frugby
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                                        Hot take. Caleb Tangitau bolts into the All Blacks next year.

                                        Happy to take Highlanders bias on this, but in a world where there seem to be few impressive u25 wingers in this country, I can see him bolting in.

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                                        • F frugby

                                          Hot take. Caleb Tangitau bolts into the All Blacks next year.

                                          Happy to take Highlanders bias on this, but in a world where there seem to be few impressive u25 wingers in this country, I can see him bolting in.

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                                          @frugby he's every chance if with regular game he can tidy up the rough edges in his game. Has an intriguing size and speed combination

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