All Blacks 2025
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia He's only not eligible because NZR say so. I'm saying he should at least be allowed to train with the squad next year and maybe be considered for some of the Tests next year (e.g. the EOYT). There are precedents for this happening with returning players.
Yeah, and so what? It's up to NZR to determine who is eligible.
Why should NZR have to pay the costs of having an ineligible player train with the squad? And if he negotiates a deal with NZR to be eligible on the EOYT then good on him, but as it currently stands he isn't eligible because he chose to go to the NH on a permanent contract.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Nepia He's only not eligible because NZR say so. I'm saying he should at least be allowed to train with the squad next year and maybe be considered for some of the Tests next year (e.g. the EOYT). There are precedents for this happening with returning players.
Yeah, and so what? It's up to NZR to determine who is eligible.
Why should NZR have to pay the costs of having an ineligible player train with the squad? And if he negotiates a deal with NZR to be eligible on the EOYT then good on him, but as it currently stands he isn't eligible because he chose to go to the NH on a permanent contract.
Can’t see much uptime for either party so LF can train with the ABs.
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https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.
Lol that fat fuck was cut for a reason
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life It would be good to have him as injury cover at 11 for Caleb Clarke. He might do a job ahead of ALB as a midfield impact off the bench, but Billy Proctor and Quinn Tupaea are likely to be in the mix too.
I have had one eye on Tupea since he game back from that horrific injury and I like what I see.
Has a bit of mongrel in him and carries with real spite.
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@sparky He has had a rough run, the chiefs midfield is deceptively competitive as well. Would love to see him become the front running 12/13 utility that ALB has had locked down for a while
@DurryMexted Jordie Barrett is going to be running on fumes at best after completing a Southern Hemisphere rugby season, then a Northern Hemisphere rugby season back to back. We are going to need a new 12 for part of 2025 and Quinn Tupaea could be that player.
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.
Lol that fat fuck was cut for a reason
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.
Lol that fat fuck was cut for a reason
Leagues version of Levi Aumua.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life It would be good to have him as injury cover at 11 for Caleb Clarke. He might do a job ahead of ALB as a midfield impact off the bench, but Billy Proctor and Quinn Tupaea are likely to be in the mix too.
I have had one eye on Tupea since he game back from that horrific injury and I like what I see.
Has a bit of mongrel in him and carries with real spite.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life It would be good to have him as injury cover at 11 for Caleb Clarke. He might do a job ahead of ALB as a midfield impact off the bench, but Billy Proctor and Quinn Tupaea are likely to be in the mix too.
I have had one eye on Tupea since he game back from that horrific injury and I like what I see.
Has a bit of mongrel in him and carries with real spite.
His carrying has certainly improved. The ABs tried to use him as a carrier in 2021, and he looked a bit uncomfortable doing it, where as now, he does it without applying the handbrake.
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There is an incredible number of possible pairings in midfield :
JB - Ioane
JB - ALB
ALB - Ioane
JB - Proctor
ALB - Proctor
JB - AJ Lam
AJ Lam - Ioane
AJ Lam - Proctor
AJ Lam - ALB
ALB - AJ Lam
Higgins - Ioane
Higgins - Proctor
Higgins - ALB
Higgins - AJ Lam
Tupaea - Ioane
Tupaea - Proctor
Tupaea - AJ Lam
Tupaea - ALBIf you add LF in that mix, then the number of possibilities would get even higher.
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There is an incredible number of possible pairings in midfield :
JB - Ioane
JB - ALB
ALB - Ioane
JB - Proctor
ALB - Proctor
JB - AJ Lam
AJ Lam - Ioane
AJ Lam - Proctor
AJ Lam - ALB
ALB - AJ Lam
Higgins - Ioane
Higgins - Proctor
Higgins - ALB
Higgins - AJ Lam
Tupaea - Ioane
Tupaea - Proctor
Tupaea - AJ Lam
Tupaea - ALBIf you add LF in that mix, then the number of possibilities would get even higher.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.
Lol that fat fuck was cut for a reason
Leagues version of Levi Aumua.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/other/dolphins-cult-hero-valynce-te-whare-leaves-the-nrl-for-new-opportunity/ar-AA1vVP7l?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=297c81fbbd3f412181e40b9432683cfc&ei=11 We could very well have more than one ex NRL player gunning for an All Black spot before the next World Cup.
Lol that fat fuck was cut for a reason
Leagues version of Levi Aumua.
Piss off, Aumua is actually good ... unless you're the Cantabs and don't know how to use him.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
I have no problem with Leicester being in consideration once he is eligible for the ABs
However - I would have an issue with him leap frogging consistent domestic performers in the midfield who don't get an opportunity at test level.
Yep. There has to be consequences for abandoning the ship.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Yep. There has to be consequences for abandoning the ship.
Different strokes for different
Crusaders*folks.*Shannon Michael Frizell appears to have been adopted by the RnB.
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Hot take. Caleb Tangitau bolts into the All Blacks next year.
Happy to take Highlanders bias on this, but in a world where there seem to be few impressive u25 wingers in this country, I can see him bolting in.
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Possible bolter, ENS, assuming the fullback position is now his with Stevenson's departure. There's an impressive outside back under 25.
@WoodysRFC I wouldn't call him a bolter, should have been there this year. Fingers crossed he carries his form after his injury.
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Hot take. Caleb Tangitau bolts into the All Blacks next year.
Happy to take Highlanders bias on this, but in a world where there seem to be few impressive u25 wingers in this country, I can see him bolting in.
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Hot take. Caleb Tangitau bolts into the All Blacks next year.
Happy to take Highlanders bias on this, but in a world where there seem to be few impressive u25 wingers in this country, I can see him bolting in.
While it's obviously possible, Tangutau wasn't even very good in the NPC this year...
