2025 6Ns
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Steward will have to start at 15 and Maus - please wash your mouth out for suggesting Daly is ever an option at full back ever again.
Surely Daly's picked as a fullback-option, next to Steward? Who else could possibly fill that slot in the squad selected? Marcus Smith doesn’t strike me as a natural fullback and why would Borthwick move him now that he seems to have finally settled into the 10-role at Test level. Murley, Roebuck and Sleightholme are wingers and Freeman’s last game at fullback came over two years ago, in a Premiership game against Exeter. If Furbank is the template for the Borthwick counter-attack from 15, then Daly comes a lot closer to that than someone like Steward. But, considering Borthwick’s conservative tendencies, I still presume Steward will get first crack.
Again, I’m not saying that Daly would be my choice – he wouldn’t – but the Premiership isn’t exactly overflowing with options either. Joe Carpenter, George Barton, Rich Lane, Josh Hodge, Tom de Glanville, ... Talented players, for sure, but hardly screaming Test quality. Tyrone Green, if convinced to choose England, would’ve been a good option in my view, but maybe he’s still waiting for a call from Rassie.
With Furbank's injury, Steward's issues at Test level and the lack of clear candidates in the Premiership, Daly's inclusion sort of makes sense. But, what it really does, is show that the cupboard is rather bare when it comes to 15s.
I'm sorry but i will have no rational conversation about the idea of Elliot Daley playing fullback, I'd rather Jamie George played 15 than him.
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@Catogrande said in 2025 6Ns:
Leaving aside for the moment that Chessum hasn't had much rugby, you're not happy with him because he's too lightweight and you're not keen on Martin because he's a heavy lump. You're difficult to please mate. There's about 6kgs between them apparently so not an awful lot, but I guess it is the way you do (or don't) throw that weight around that counts. However, I'd rather have Chessum, or Coles for that matter in the engine room than either of Ewels or Isiekwe..
Solving the non jumping back row option should be easy if Borthwick picks Ted Hill (which he won't) and Willis at 8 (which he won't). A back row of Hill at 6, Willis at 8 and either Earl or B Curry at 7 would offer a good balance imo.
I'd have Martin as the first name on the team sheet in the pack unless Chessum can put on some bulk and learn to push in a scrum. He reminds me of Tom Croft, one of those fellas who struggle to maintain playing weight as the season goes on.
I would have Willis at 8, Earl at 6 or 7 with Underhill playing the other side when fit, Curry otherwise.
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i'd be broadly happy with that back row but would be happier with Ted Hill at 6. That boy hs some dog in him and a bit of height. I really think that if he'd been playing anywhere else other than Worcester during his earlier years he would already have a hatful of caps.
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@Catogrande said in 2025 6Ns:
Ted Hill at 6. That boy hs some dog in him and a bit of height. I really think that if he'd been playing anywhere else other than Worcester during his earlier years he would already have a hatful of caps.
Wouldn't you have any worries about his defensive efforts? I agree that he's very good in the lineout but he doesn't seem to be a very willing tackler. I watched the game against La Rochelle and, for a blindside, he barely got involved defensively (1 completed tackle with 3 missed).
He has a few too many of those types of games for my liking (Northampton Rd. 1, Exeter Rd. 7, Saracens Rd. 9) where he's pretty much a non-factor or even a net-negative on defence. Maybe he raises this aspect of his game at Test level but it's difficult to imagine him coming close to someone like a Sam Underhill in that regard.
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I'm sorry but i will have no rational conversation about the idea of Elliot Daley playing fullback, I'd rather Jamie George played 15 than him.
Well, Jamie George does have good hands on him. Not sure about his high-ball skills though.
they cannot be worse than Daley's, despite his little arms
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@Catogrande said in 2025 6Ns:
Ted Hill at 6. That boy hs some dog in him and a bit of height. I really think that if he'd been playing anywhere else other than Worcester during his earlier years he would already have a hatful of caps.
Wouldn't you have any worries about his defensive efforts? I agree that he's very good in the lineout but he doesn't seem to be a very willing tackler. I watched the game against La Rochelle and, for a blindside, he barely got involved defensively (1 completed tackle with 3 missed).
He has a few too many of those types of games for my liking (Northampton Rd. 1, Exeter Rd. 7, Saracens Rd. 9) where he's pretty much a non-factor or even a net-negative on defence. Maybe he raises this aspect of his game at Test level but it's difficult to imagine him coming close to someone like a Sam Underhill in that regard.
yes, that's my view of Hill, I want a dog at 6 who makes tackles and hits rucks, Curry and Underhill (and Earl) do that a million times better than him IMO
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What was wrong with the kiwi lad who played in November?
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I agree, he’s not a tackling machine a la Underhill (who would be my preferred 7 & first name on the team sheet) but his contact work, carrying and ruck work I think is very good. He has both size and athleticism on his side and from what I’ve seen has good hands. An added lineout option too. Above all though it is balance in the back row. Whenever you think of stand out back row units they compliment each other. A big dog of a bloke at 6 that is a complete nuisance, a tough, abrasive no8 and a tackle machine/jackal at 7 is ideal imo. Hill, Willis and Underhill/Curry/Earl would begin to look like that unit.
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Hey! Less of that, he’s a Sidcup boy. He just honed his poor handling in NZ, that’s all.
Oh and Brad Shields says hi.
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@Catogrande said in 2025 6Ns:
Hey! Less of that, he’s a Sidcup boy. He just honed his poor handling in NZ, that’s all.
Oh and Brad Shields says hi.
So it's just SE London clubs you have a thing against then.
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Not at all. Just those poaching NZ bastards that lured him away at age 2.
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@Catogrande said in 2025 6Ns:
Not at all. Just those poaching NZ bastards that lured him away at age 2.
Sure sure, CCS from Sidcup and ED from Beckenham. Who next, Genge from Penge?
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Scotland squad Inc Burke
Another kilted Kiwi named in Scottish six nations squad
Former Crusasder named in Scottish squad, Dupont back for France, Ireland looking strong for Six Nations.
Edit or not, just some info here
Scotland squad announced for 2025 Guinness Six Nations - Scottish Rugby
Squad update 20/01 | Darge and Russell named co-captains. Squad update 27/01 | Five players called up ahead of opener. There are two uncapped players in the selection: Saracens stand-off Fergus Burke, who qualifies through the lineage of his Glasgow-born grandfather, and Glasgow Warriors No 8 Jack...
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Ireland
Ireland boosted by Dan Sheehan's miracle recovery as interim boss plays it safe for Six Nations
Interim head coach Simon Easterby has decided against taking the chance to put his own stamp on the Ireland squad with just one uncapped player in the 36.
France
Dupont and Ntamack back in French squad for 2025 Six Nations - Guinness Men's Six Nations
Fabien Galthié has named a squad featuring a star half-back pairing for the 2025 Guinness Men's Six Nations Rugby, as Antoine Dupont and Romain Ntamack return.
