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  • CatograndeC Offline
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    @Dodge

    i'd be broadly happy with that back row but would be happier with Ted Hill at 6. That boy hs some dog in him and a bit of height. I really think that if he'd been playing anywhere else other than Worcester during his earlier years he would already have a hatful of caps.

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    @Catogrande said in 2025 6Ns:

    Ted Hill at 6. That boy hs some dog in him and a bit of height. I really think that if he'd been playing anywhere else other than Worcester during his earlier years he would already have a hatful of caps.

    Wouldn't you have any worries about his defensive efforts? I agree that he's very good in the lineout but he doesn't seem to be a very willing tackler. I watched the game against La Rochelle and, for a blindside, he barely got involved defensively (1 completed tackle with 3 missed).

    He has a few too many of those types of games for my liking (Northampton Rd. 1, Exeter Rd. 7, Saracens Rd. 9) where he's pretty much a non-factor or even a net-negative on defence. Maybe he raises this aspect of his game at Test level but it's difficult to imagine him coming close to someone like a Sam Underhill in that regard.

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    @Dodge said in 2025 6Ns:

    I'm sorry but i will have no rational conversation about the idea of Elliot Daley playing fullback, I'd rather Jamie George played 15 than him.

    Well, Jamie George does have good hands on him. Not sure about his high-ball skills though.

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    @Mauss said in 2025 6Ns:

    @Dodge said in 2025 6Ns:

    I'm sorry but i will have no rational conversation about the idea of Elliot Daley playing fullback, I'd rather Jamie George played 15 than him.

    Well, Jamie George does have good hands on him. Not sure about his high-ball skills though.

    they cannot be worse than Daley's, despite his little arms

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    @Mauss said in 2025 6Ns:

    @Catogrande said in 2025 6Ns:

    Ted Hill at 6. That boy hs some dog in him and a bit of height. I really think that if he'd been playing anywhere else other than Worcester during his earlier years he would already have a hatful of caps.

    Wouldn't you have any worries about his defensive efforts? I agree that he's very good in the lineout but he doesn't seem to be a very willing tackler. I watched the game against La Rochelle and, for a blindside, he barely got involved defensively (1 completed tackle with 3 missed).

    He has a few too many of those types of games for my liking (Northampton Rd. 1, Exeter Rd. 7, Saracens Rd. 9) where he's pretty much a non-factor or even a net-negative on defence. Maybe he raises this aspect of his game at Test level but it's difficult to imagine him coming close to someone like a Sam Underhill in that regard.

    yes, that's my view of Hill, I want a dog at 6 who makes tackles and hits rucks, Curry and Underhill (and Earl) do that a million times better than him IMO

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    What was wrong with the kiwi lad who played in November?

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    CCS? I like him at 6 but would prefer him off the bench I think. He should be an 8 but he has tits for hands

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    @Mauss @Dodge

    I agree, he’s not a tackling machine a la Underhill (who would be my preferred 7 & first name on the team sheet) but his contact work, carrying and ruck work I think is very good. He has both size and athleticism on his side and from what I’ve seen has good hands. An added lineout option too. Above all though it is balance in the back row. Whenever you think of stand out back row units they compliment each other. A big dog of a bloke at 6 that is a complete nuisance, a tough, abrasive no8 and a tackle machine/jackal at 7 is ideal imo. Hill, Willis and Underhill/Curry/Earl would begin to look like that unit.

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    @Dodge said in 2025 6Ns:

    CCS? I like him at 6 but would prefer him off the bench I think. He should be an 8 but he has tits for hands

    Sad but true.

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    @Dodge said in 2025 6Ns:

    CCS? I like him at 6 but would prefer him off the bench I think. He should be an 8 but he has tits for hands

    Not the first backrower we've given you who fits that definition.

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    Hey! Less of that, he’s a Sidcup boy. He just honed his poor handling in NZ, that’s all.

    Oh and Brad Shields says hi.

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    @Catogrande said in 2025 6Ns:

    @antipodean

    Hey! Less of that, he’s a Sidcup boy. He just honed his poor handling in NZ, that’s all.

    Oh and Brad Shields says hi.

    So it's just SE London clubs you have a thing against then.

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    Not at all. Just those poaching NZ bastards that lured him away at age 2.

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    @Catogrande said in 2025 6Ns:

    @Bones

    Not at all. Just those poaching NZ bastards that lured him away at age 2.

    Sure sure, CCS from Sidcup and ED from Beckenham. Who next, Genge from Penge?

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    @Bones

    i'm more comcerned if we get a talent from the Isle of Wight as we know what you lot are like with islanders.

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    Scotland squad Inc Burke

    Jan 15  /  Sport

    Another kilted Kiwi named in Scottish six nations squad

    Another kilted Kiwi named in Scottish six nations squad

    Former Crusasder named in Scottish squad, Dupont back for France, Ireland looking strong for Six Nations.

    Edit or not, just some info here

    Joe Anderson  /  Jan 15

    Scotland squad announced for 2025 Guinness Six Nations - Scottish Rugby

    Scotland squad announced for 2025 Guinness Six Nations - Scottish Rugby

    Squad update 20/01 | Darge and Russell named co-captains. Squad update 27/01 | Five players called up ahead of opener.  There are two uncapped players in the selection: Saracens stand-off Fergus Burke, who qualifies through the lineage of his Glasgow-born grandfather, and Glasgow Warriors No 8 Jack...

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    Ireland

    Colin Newboult  /  Jan 15  /  Internationals

    Ireland boosted by Dan Sheehan's miracle recovery as interim boss plays it safe for Six Nations

    Ireland boosted by Dan Sheehan's miracle recovery as interim boss plays it safe for Six Nations

    Interim head coach Simon Easterby has decided against taking the chance to put his own stamp on the Ireland squad with just one uncapped player in the 36.

    France

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    Dupont and Ntamack back in French squad for 2025 Six Nations - Guinness Men's Six Nations

    Dupont and Ntamack back in French squad for 2025 Six Nations - Guinness Men's Six Nations

    Fabien Galthié has named a squad featuring a star half-back pairing for the 2025 Guinness Men's Six Nations Rugby, as Antoine Dupont and Romain Ntamack return.

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    Looking forward to this kicking off on Friday - seem to have been starved of Internationals for months and the weather has turned to shite.

    This tournament has just got better and better over the last few years and the looming Lions squad selection will add another another layer of interest. My pick: England.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in 2025 6Ns:

    Looking forward to this kicking off on Friday - seem to have been starved of Internationals for months and the weather has turned to shite.

    This tournament has just got better and better over the last few years and the looming Lions squad selection will add another another layer of interest. My pick: England.

    Na, Scots with the Grand Slam

    This is their year.

    Lions squad will be interesting. All the nations except for Wales should see a decent representation

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    @MN5 said in 2025 6Ns:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in 2025 6Ns:

    Looking forward to this kicking off on Friday - seem to have been starved of Internationals for months and the weather has turned to shite.

    This tournament has just got better and better over the last few years and the looming Lions squad selection will add another another layer of interest. My pick: England.

    Na, Scots with the Grand Slam

    This is their year.

    Lions squad will be interesting. All the nations except for Wales should see a decent representation

    I just love watching the Jocks and their adventurous play, but nah.

    Be interested to see where Wales go this year - they really seem to have lost their way and their belief in themselves big time

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