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All Blacks 2025

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    #562

    Jordie is still a good bench solution.
    I'm bemused that now the issue is we don't have a player like SBW (and yes his ability to get the ball away was epic but I thought we never saw him in his prime; speed hampered by longterm injuries).
    Still, others seem to differ "https://rugbynation.com/blogs/rugby/the-unstoppable-force-of-sonny-bill-williams"
    -I don't recall lightning fast footwork when he was an AB.

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      I can't see JB replaced at 12, he simply such a busy player there. Not saying he great, but noone looks gangbuster to me. I was prettyhopeful in Higgins, but by geez his defence worries me. Not just his tackling, but how often he seemed to get disconnected. I thought one of Canes strengths last year was how well JB and Proctor combined especially in defence.. Let's hope that Higgins switches on and does similar this season to puy hand up for ABs.

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      • Dan54D Dan54

        I can't see JB replaced at 12, he simply such a busy player there. Not saying he great, but noone looks gangbuster to me. I was prettyhopeful in Higgins, but by geez his defence worries me. Not just his tackling, but how often he seemed to get disconnected. I thought one of Canes strengths last year was how well JB and Proctor combined especially in defence.. Let's hope that Higgins switches on and does similar this season to puy hand up for ABs.

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        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

        I can't see JB replaced at 12, he simply such a busy player there. Not saying he great, but noone looks gangbuster to me. I was prettyhopeful in Higgins, but by geez his defence worries me. Not just his tackling, but how often he seemed to get disconnected. I thought one of Canes strengths last year was how well JB and Proctor combined especially in defence.. Let's hope that Higgins switches on and does similar this season to puy hand up for ABs.

        He was pretty ordinary in a Canes jersey for the most part in 2024 IMO and as per recent seasons failed to step up when the pressure went on. Three years in a row for the Canes he went missing in the playoffs and he didn't exactly set the house on fire for the ABs either.

        He's definitely replaceable but half the problem with the ABs is the Barrett's seem untouchable at the selection table.

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        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

          @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

          I can't see JB replaced at 12, he simply such a busy player there. Not saying he great, but noone looks gangbuster to me. I was prettyhopeful in Higgins, but by geez his defence worries me. Not just his tackling, but how often he seemed to get disconnected. I thought one of Canes strengths last year was how well JB and Proctor combined especially in defence.. Let's hope that Higgins switches on and does similar this season to puy hand up for ABs.

          He was pretty ordinary in a Canes jersey for the most part in 2024 IMO and as per recent seasons failed to step up when the pressure went on. Three years in a row for the Canes he went missing in the playoffs and he didn't exactly set the house on fire for the ABs either.

          He's definitely replaceable but half the problem with the ABs is the Barrett's seem untouchable at the selection table.

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          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

          I can't see JB replaced at 12, he simply such a busy player there. Not saying he great, but noone looks gangbuster to me. I was prettyhopeful in Higgins, but by geez his defence worries me. Not just his tackling, but how often he seemed to get disconnected. I thought one of Canes strengths last year was how well JB and Proctor combined especially in defence.. Let's hope that Higgins switches on and does similar this season to puy hand up for ABs.

          He was pretty ordinary in a Canes jersey for the most part in 2025 IMO and as per recent seasons failed to step up when the pressure went on. Three years in a row for the Canes he went missing in the playoffs.

          He's definitely replaceable.

          Witch.

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          • NepiaN Nepia

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

            I can't see JB replaced at 12, he simply such a busy player there. Not saying he great, but noone looks gangbuster to me. I was prettyhopeful in Higgins, but by geez his defence worries me. Not just his tackling, but how often he seemed to get disconnected. I thought one of Canes strengths last year was how well JB and Proctor combined especially in defence.. Let's hope that Higgins switches on and does similar this season to puy hand up for ABs.

            He was pretty ordinary in a Canes jersey for the most part in 2025 IMO and as per recent seasons failed to step up when the pressure went on. Three years in a row for the Canes he went missing in the playoffs.

            He's definitely replaceable.

            Witch.

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            @Nepia Lol you responded too quickly, I was in the middle of changing this.

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              Would genuinely be stoked if we had a 12 step out of the shaows @Canes4life , just at this stage, I haven't seen anyone.

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                Would genuinely be stoked if we had a 12 step out of the shaows @Canes4life , just at this stage, I haven't seen anyone.

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                @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                Would genuinely be stoked if we had a 12 step out of the shaows @Canes4life , just at this stage, I haven't seen anyone.

                Who knows if he'll get enough time to prove himself.. but Zarn Sullivan is going to spend some time in the midfield for the Blues

                A big body and a second playmaker skillset

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                • Dan54D Dan54

                  Would genuinely be stoked if we had a 12 step out of the shaows @Canes4life , just at this stage, I haven't seen anyone.

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                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Would genuinely be stoked if we had a 12 step out of the shaows @Canes4life , just at this stage, I haven't seen anyone.

                  ive come around to the idea of trying out more people, we want the kind of players that improves when surrounded by the best players and coaches in the country...which is hard to know unless we try

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    Jordie is still a good bench solution.
                    I'm bemused that now the issue is we don't have a player like SBW (and yes his ability to get the ball away was epic but I thought we never saw him in his prime; speed hampered by longterm injuries).
                    Still, others seem to differ "https://rugbynation.com/blogs/rugby/the-unstoppable-force-of-sonny-bill-williams"
                    -I don't recall lightning fast footwork when he was an AB.

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                    #570

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Jordie is still a good bench solution.
                    I'm bemused that now the issue is we don't have a player like SBW (and yes his ability to get the ball away was epic but I thought we never saw him in his prime; speed hampered by longterm injuries).
                    Still, others seem to differ "https://rugbynation.com/blogs/rugby/the-unstoppable-force-of-sonny-bill-williams"
                    -I don't recall lightning fast footwork when he was an AB.

                    AI nonsense. How many scrums and mauls did he get in ?

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Article did say talks had stalled.

                      That means money.

                      RM would love to come back for the right $$$ I'm sure. But buying him out is expensive and NZR have no money.

                      Right decision to not pay, but I am very disappointed at how long this has taken and how much of a distraction this has been in the media. Coaches should be publicly backing their players, not squeezing one out for an overseas player who didn't set the world on fire at Test level.

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                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Article did say talks had stalled.

                      That means money.

                      RM would love to come back for the right $$$ I'm sure. But buying him out is expensive and NZR have no money.

                      Right decision to not pay, but I am very disappointed at how long this has taken and how much of a distraction this has been in the media. Coaches should be publicly backing their players, not squeezing one out for an overseas player who didn't set the world on fire at Test level.

                      Yup, it’s pretty predictable. They were never going to pay extra for him but try and find ways to make it easier for him to come back.

                      Of course, they went public with this news they were trying to bring him back early - why? No idea.

                      Then of course players here like DMac would have lost confidence in their place in this new regime. He was asked to play a run at all costs gameplan and then was dropped for Barrett.

                      From the outside looking in, it just seems a bit all over the place

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Would genuinely be stoked if we had a 12 step out of the shaows @Canes4life , just at this stage, I haven't seen anyone.

                        Who knows if he'll get enough time to prove himself.. but Zarn Sullivan is going to spend some time in the midfield for the Blues

                        A big body and a second playmaker skillset

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                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Would genuinely be stoked if we had a 12 step out of the shaows @Canes4life , just at this stage, I haven't seen anyone.

                        Who knows if he'll get enough time to prove himself.. but Zarn Sullivan is going to spend some time in the midfield for the Blues

                        A big body and a second playmaker skillset

                        Absolutely smoked Tavatavanawai last season too, that's enough to convince me he's genuinely hard as nails as well.

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                          Want to see more of Lam, Tupaea, and McLeod at 12.

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                            Want to see more of Lam, Tupaea, and McLeod at 12.

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                            @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Want to see more of Lam, Tupaea, and McLeod at 12.

                            McLeod is a poor man’s Jordie Barrett. Agree on Lam though.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Want to see more of Lam, Tupaea, and McLeod at 12.

                              McLeod is a poor man’s Jordie Barrett. Agree on Lam though.

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Agree on Lam though

                              He could be a really useful squad member. Doing the role that Ennor never quite fulfilled

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Want to see more of Lam, Tupaea, and McLeod at 12.

                                McLeod is a poor man’s Jordie Barrett. Agree on Lam though.

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                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @WoodysRFC said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Want to see more of Lam, Tupaea, and McLeod at 12.

                                McLeod is a poor man’s Jordie Barrett. Agree on Lam though.

                                Was just about to say, the last thing the ABs need is a Wish version of Jordie Barrett

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                                  McLeod to do a Kahui and nail down a wing spot helping us win the next RWC.

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                                    McLeod to do a Kahui and nail down a wing spot helping us win the next RWC.

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    McLeod to do a Kahui and nail down a wing spot helping us win the next RWC.

                                    https://media.tenor.com/DcL84JoRwk4AAAAM/wtf.gif

                                    Hold up, you can't come for my boy Kahui like that.

                                    The man may have been made of glass but he was fucking quality.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      McLeod to do a Kahui and nail down a wing spot helping us win the next RWC.

                                      https://media.tenor.com/DcL84JoRwk4AAAAM/wtf.gif

                                      Hold up, you can't come for my boy Kahui like that.

                                      The man may have been made of glass but he was fucking quality.

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                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      McLeod to do a Kahui and nail down a wing spot helping us win the next RWC.

                                      https://media.tenor.com/DcL84JoRwk4AAAAM/wtf.gif

                                      Hold up, you can't come for my boy Kahui like that.

                                      The man may have been made of glass but he was fucking quality.

                                      And gorgeous

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                                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        McLeod to do a Kahui and nail down a wing spot helping us win the next RWC.

                                        https://media.tenor.com/DcL84JoRwk4AAAAM/wtf.gif

                                        Hold up, you can't come for my boy Kahui like that.

                                        The man may have been made of glass but he was fucking quality.

                                        And gorgeous

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                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        McLeod to do a Kahui and nail down a wing spot helping us win the next RWC.

                                        https://media.tenor.com/DcL84JoRwk4AAAAM/wtf.gif

                                        Hold up, you can't come for my boy Kahui like that.

                                        The man may have been made of glass but he was fucking quality.

                                        And gorgeous

                                        Didn't they said that about Caleb Ralph? Didn't he court a royal?

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          McLeod to do a Kahui and nail down a wing spot helping us win the next RWC.

                                          https://media.tenor.com/DcL84JoRwk4AAAAM/wtf.gif

                                          Hold up, you can't come for my boy Kahui like that.

                                          The man may have been made of glass but he was fucking quality.

                                          And gorgeous

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                                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          McLeod to do a Kahui and nail down a wing spot helping us win the next RWC.

                                          https://media.tenor.com/DcL84JoRwk4AAAAM/wtf.gif

                                          Hold up, you can't come for my boy Kahui like that.

                                          The man may have been made of glass but he was fucking quality.

                                          And gorgeous

                                          M4L outing himself as my mother was not on my bingo card for today.

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