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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

    @MN5 its bit damning that it feels there are a few guys that seems to get worse the longer they are in the AB environment

    Were you talking about players or coaching staff?

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

    @MN5 its bit damning that it feels there are a few guys that seems to get worse the longer they are in the AB environment

    Were you talking about players or coaching staff?

    not sure i need to differentiate :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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    • S SBW1

      Wonder if Joe Schimdt is a shoe in for the Wales job. If he wants to be closer to home, maybe he gets a role in NZ.

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      @SBW1 thinking that Joe will return to Auckland, possibly with a position with his old mate Vern, or maybe even Auckland NPC,

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

        I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

        Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

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        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

        I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

        Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

        Same as before then

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        • canefanC canefan

          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

          I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

          Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

          Same as before then

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          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

          I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

          Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

          Same as before then

          i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

            I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

            Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

            Same as before then

            i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

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            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

            I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

            Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

            Same as before then

            i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

            I got impression he took Wallabies job with some push from WR. If he was real keen I sure his son could get good care/help in Aus too, but Joe never intended (or I think was interested) in more than a caretaker role to help sort them out. Was a bit like WR was pretty keen on Aus getting 27 WC, as they needed help to get books sorted etc.

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            • Dan54D Dan54

              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

              I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

              Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

              Same as before then

              i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

              I got impression he took Wallabies job with some push from WR. If he was real keen I sure his son could get good care/help in Aus too, but Joe never intended (or I think was interested) in more than a caretaker role to help sort them out. Was a bit like WR was pretty keen on Aus getting 27 WC, as they needed help to get books sorted etc.

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              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

              I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

              Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

              Same as before then

              i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

              I got impression he took Wallabies job with some push from WR. If he was real keen I sure his son could get good care/help in Aus too, but Joe never intended (or I think was interested) in more than a caretaker role to help sort them out. Was a bit like WR was pretty keen on Aus getting 27 WC, as they needed help to get books sorted etc.

              I suspect that they'd rather be at home near family support?

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

                Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

                Same as before then

                i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

                I got impression he took Wallabies job with some push from WR. If he was real keen I sure his son could get good care/help in Aus too, but Joe never intended (or I think was interested) in more than a caretaker role to help sort them out. Was a bit like WR was pretty keen on Aus getting 27 WC, as they needed help to get books sorted etc.

                I suspect that they'd rather be at home near family support?

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                @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

                Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

                Same as before then

                i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

                I got impression he took Wallabies job with some push from WR. If he was real keen I sure his son could get good care/help in Aus too, but Joe never intended (or I think was interested) in more than a caretaker role to help sort them out. Was a bit like WR was pretty keen on Aus getting 27 WC, as they needed help to get books sorted etc.

                I suspect that they'd rather be at home near family support?

                For sure mate, just saying if he was real keen etc. It seems he was struggling when coaching Ireland with the whole head coach gig at test level, was wearing him down a fair bit. Well that's what Hansen said, they pretty good mates.

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                  He has at least stabilized the dumpster fire that was the Wallabies. Up to them not to screw up the next appointment. Kiss from the Reds would seem a decent hire. And Latham has been around for some time

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    He has at least stabilized the dumpster fire that was the Wallabies. Up to them not to screw up the next appointment. Kiss from the Reds would seem a decent hire. And Latham has been around for some time

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                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                    He has at least stabilized the dumpster fire that was the Wallabies. Up to them not to screw up the next appointment. Kiss from the Reds would seem a decent hire. And Latham has been around for some time

                    Just read that Latham is off to coach in MLR, says he needs experience, and hopes to work his way up to Reds. He nowhere near an international coach.

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                      Are we getting our Lathams and Larkhams mixed up?

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                        Isn't Steve Larkham a shoe-in for it?

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          Are we getting our Lathams and Larkhams mixed up?

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                          @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Are we getting our Lathams and Larkhams mixed up?

                          I certainly did

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                          • Dan54D Dan54

                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                            I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

                            Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

                            Same as before then

                            i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

                            I got impression he took Wallabies job with some push from WR. If he was real keen I sure his son could get good care/help in Aus too, but Joe never intended (or I think was interested) in more than a caretaker role to help sort them out. Was a bit like WR was pretty keen on Aus getting 27 WC, as they needed help to get books sorted etc.

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                            @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                            I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

                            Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

                            Same as before then

                            i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

                            I got impression he took Wallabies job with some push from WR. If he was real keen I sure his son could get good care/help in Aus too, but Joe never intended (or I think was interested) in more than a caretaker role to help sort them out. Was a bit like WR was pretty keen on Aus getting 27 WC, as they needed help to get books sorted etc.

                            Pretty sure it was because of relationships rather than any push from WR.

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                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                              I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

                              Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

                              Same as before then

                              i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

                              I got impression he took Wallabies job with some push from WR. If he was real keen I sure his son could get good care/help in Aus too, but Joe never intended (or I think was interested) in more than a caretaker role to help sort them out. Was a bit like WR was pretty keen on Aus getting 27 WC, as they needed help to get books sorted etc.

                              Pretty sure it was because of relationships rather than any push from WR.

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                              @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                              I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

                              Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

                              Same as before then

                              i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

                              I got impression he took Wallabies job with some push from WR. If he was real keen I sure his son could get good care/help in Aus too, but Joe never intended (or I think was interested) in more than a caretaker role to help sort them out. Was a bit like WR was pretty keen on Aus getting 27 WC, as they needed help to get books sorted etc.

                              Pretty sure it was because of relationships rather than any push from WR.

                              Yep well push maybe wrong word, but I have heard Schmidt say something along the lines that WR had involvement, or something like that. Not suggesting any wrong doing or anything, but Aus is (I pretty sure) considered fairly important to WR that they are competitive etc. They don't want country losing rugby as such.

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                              • Dan54D Dan54

                                @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                                I wonder why he is quitting? Anyone have any scoop? Seems a hard job to keep for some reason.

                                Family. His son has medical support needs and both his son and Joe's wife live in New Zealand so he doesn't want to be away from them as much as the wallabies coaching role requires.

                                Same as before then

                                i had assumed thing had changed for him when he took the Wallabies job, his son didn;t need as much support or something

                                I got impression he took Wallabies job with some push from WR. If he was real keen I sure his son could get good care/help in Aus too, but Joe never intended (or I think was interested) in more than a caretaker role to help sort them out. Was a bit like WR was pretty keen on Aus getting 27 WC, as they needed help to get books sorted etc.

                                Pretty sure it was because of relationships rather than any push from WR.

                                Yep well push maybe wrong word, but I have heard Schmidt say something along the lines that WR had involvement, or something like that. Not suggesting any wrong doing or anything, but Aus is (I pretty sure) considered fairly important to WR that they are competitive etc. They don't want country losing rugby as such.

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                                @Dan54 I’m sure WR was not displeased. But don’t think that was a motivation.

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                                  From watching the 1996 Super Rugby first game - our first fives do not have big boots, I would say that other than a fluke, that none of them could kick from 22 to 22.

                                  Bring back big thighs and big boots.

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                                    Good to see NZR sticking to their guns

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-hold-ground-over-all-blacks-eligibility-rules-despite-failed-swoop-for-richie-mounga/NNYV347SXNC6ZNP5LEDSSQMMKU/

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                                      Good. Even though parts of our game plan have gone stale in the last few years, something we always have is talent in our own backyard.

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        Good to see NZR sticking to their guns

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-hold-ground-over-all-blacks-eligibility-rules-despite-failed-swoop-for-richie-mounga/NNYV347SXNC6ZNP5LEDSSQMMKU/

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                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Good to see NZR sticking to their guns

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-hold-ground-over-all-blacks-eligibility-rules-despite-failed-swoop-for-richie-mounga/NNYV347SXNC6ZNP5LEDSSQMMKU/

                                        Razor must be a bit slow, but even he must realise that the tail does not wag the All Black dog

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                                          The comments for this article on FB confirm the idea that it is a harbour of ignorance

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