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    replied to bayimports on last edited by Kiwiwomble
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    @bayimports oh....ok, that make more sense

    so AIG was one of the financial institutes that received a bailout whilst giving their board bonus', a bit of bad press

    The billionaire owner of French construction company Altrad, was handed an 18-month suspended jail term after being found guilty of corruption in connection with the company’s sponsorship of the French national team

    and now this....we just attract sponsors trying to sports wash themselves basically

    i wonder what their argument is for not paying...a legal dispute does need some vague defence

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    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    At what point does Mark Robinson's position become untenable?

    How many things has he messed up since taking over for Tew?

    How is Robinson responsible for INEOS not paying money? Genuine question, if you booted any CEO because a company they has agreement with didn't come up with coin, I imagine there wouldn't be many CEOs lasting long.

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    Paul Cully's take:

    The Waikato Times
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    @Dan54 said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    At what point does Mark Robinson's position become untenable?

    How many things has he messed up since taking over for Tew?

    How is Robinson responsible for INEOS not paying money? Genuine question, if you booted any CEO because a company they has agreement with didn't come up with coin, I imagine there wouldn't be many CEOs lasting long.

    If they did a due diligence they'd see he's got buckets of cash. He just doesn't want to give us what he owes

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    @Dan54 said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    At what point does Mark Robinson's position become untenable?

    How many things has he messed up since taking over for Tew?

    How is Robinson responsible for INEOS not paying money? Genuine question, if you booted any CEO because a company they has agreement with didn't come up with coin, I imagine there wouldn't be many CEOs lasting long.

    Ultimately it's on NZR/Robinson who they engage with as sponsors

    Optically this is a terrible look.

    I never said you would boot the CEO for this matter alone - if this was an isolated incident that would be one thing but Mark Robinson's track record is not great.

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    Japanese, and the french.

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    @Bovidae said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    Paul Cully's take:

    The Waikato Times

    It is understood that the collapse of the deal did not come as a shock to NZ Rugby, and that INEOS will claim it didn’t deliver on aspects of the deal, but that the governing body is confident of its legal position.

    Blame foster for that 😉

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    @canefan said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @Dan54 said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    At what point does Mark Robinson's position become untenable?

    How many things has he messed up since taking over for Tew?

    How is Robinson responsible for INEOS not paying money? Genuine question, if you booted any CEO because a company they has agreement with didn't come up with coin, I imagine there wouldn't be many CEOs lasting long.

    If they did a due diligence they'd see he's got buckets of cash. He just doesn't want to give us what he owes

    Yep, but he has for 3 years, pretty sure due diligence doesn't cover people being an arsehole 3 years down the track. He's done the same to Ben Ainslie's America's cup team too. And seems is stuffing up Man United ?

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    @Dan54 said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @canefan said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @Dan54 said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    At what point does Mark Robinson's position become untenable?

    How many things has he messed up since taking over for Tew?

    How is Robinson responsible for INEOS not paying money? Genuine question, if you booted any CEO because a company they has agreement with didn't come up with coin, I imagine there wouldn't be many CEOs lasting long.

    If they did a due diligence they'd see he's got buckets of cash. He just doesn't want to give us what he owes

    Yep, but he has for 3 years, pretty sure due diligence doesn't cover people being an arsehole 3 years down the track. He's done the same to Ben Ainslie's America's cup team too. And seems is stuffing up Man United ?

    Yup. No column in the balance sheet for fluffybunnies

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    @george33 said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    Japanese, and the french.

    george33 doing george33 things...no context to that statement?

    @canefan said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @Dan54 said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    At what point does Mark Robinson's position become untenable?

    How many things has he messed up since taking over for Tew?

    How is Robinson responsible for INEOS not paying money? Genuine question, if you booted any CEO because a company they has agreement with didn't come up with coin, I imagine there wouldn't be many CEOs lasting long.

    If they did a due diligence they'd see he's got buckets of cash. He just doesn't want to give us what he owes

    im not even sure thats due diligenceits common knowledge, he's not exactly one of those unknown billionaires

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    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @Dan54 said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    At what point does Mark Robinson's position become untenable?

    How many things has he messed up since taking over for Tew?

    How is Robinson responsible for INEOS not paying money? Genuine question, if you booted any CEO because a company they has agreement with didn't come up with coin, I imagine there wouldn't be many CEOs lasting long.

    Ultimately it's on NZR/Robinson who they engage with as sponsors

    Optically this is a terrible look.

    I never said you would boot the CEO for this matter alone - if this was an isolated incident that would be one thing but Mark Robinson's track record is not great.

    I have no idea what is happening with the Silver Lake deal but it would be nice to know?

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    @kev said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @Dan54 said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    At what point does Mark Robinson's position become untenable?

    How many things has he messed up since taking over for Tew?

    How is Robinson responsible for INEOS not paying money? Genuine question, if you booted any CEO because a company they has agreement with didn't come up with coin, I imagine there wouldn't be many CEOs lasting long.

    Ultimately it's on NZR/Robinson who they engage with as sponsors

    Optically this is a terrible look.

    I never said you would boot the CEO for this matter alone - if this was an isolated incident that would be one thing but Mark Robinson's track record is not great.

    I have no idea what is happening with the Silver Lake deal but it would be nice to know?

    Deal is done, SL own a part of NZR commercial and get money each year based on income (not profit).

    If you mean 'what are SL doing to enhance the value of NZR commercial'? Fuck knows, looks like nothing at all

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    im starting to think the SL was more simple than i thought...that what they were bring to the party other than money was minor...they gave us some money now....to get a share of commercial income down the track...and we almost certainly got screwed over

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    For an establishment that really relies on being in the public eye in a positive light and being transparent, they've been the complete opposite under Robinson. Fuck him off

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    @Kiwiwomble said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    im starting to think the SL was more simple than i thought...that what they were bring to the party other than money was minor...they gave us some money now....to get a share of commercial income down the track...and we almost certainly got screwed over

    That was always the risk…they said we have all this expertise….trust us…..we will help “you” grow new revenue streams…

    I hope there was a plan?

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    Please correct me if I’m wrong. Isn’t silver lake involved in phone apps.
    So now everything with rugby in nz you have to be signed up to rugby explorer app.
    Super rugby fantasy is an app.
    I’m sure someone knows more about it than that.

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    @chchfanatic said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    Please correct me if I’m wrong. Isn’t silver lake involved in phone apps.

    SL is an investment firm focused on tech, I am sure that they do stuff with apps, but everything has nowadays

    Super rugby fantasy is an app.

    However, maybe not everything due stuff with apps, as SR Fantasy is not an app at all, it is web based. SR also is a different entity to what SL has interest in

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    @Machpants I haven’t even looked at fantasy so just thought it was an app.

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    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @Dan54 said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    At what point does Mark Robinson's position become untenable?

    How many things has he messed up since taking over for Tew?

    How is Robinson responsible for INEOS not paying money? Genuine question, if you booted any CEO because a company they has agreement with didn't come up with coin, I imagine there wouldn't be many CEOs lasting long.

    Ultimately it's on NZR/Robinson who they engage with as sponsors

    Optically this is a terrible look.

    I never said you would boot the CEO for this matter alone - if this was an isolated incident that would be one thing but Mark Robinson's track record is not great.

    This is not on NZR. Its not on Robinson.

    Everything that happens is not always their fault

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    @DaGrubster said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @Dan54 said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    @KiwiMurph said in NZ rugby new sponsorship:

    At what point does Mark Robinson's position become untenable?

    How many things has he messed up since taking over for Tew?

    How is Robinson responsible for INEOS not paying money? Genuine question, if you booted any CEO because a company they has agreement with didn't come up with coin, I imagine there wouldn't be many CEOs lasting long.

    Ultimately it's on NZR/Robinson who they engage with as sponsors

    Optically this is a terrible look.

    I never said you would boot the CEO for this matter alone - if this was an isolated incident that would be one thing but Mark Robinson's track record is not great.

    This is not on NZR. Its not on Robinson.

    Everything that happens is not always their fault

    If it waddles and quacks during duck season, I'm shooting at it.

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