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  • M Machpants

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

    Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

    PR speak.

    I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

    No this is an outside of officially window extra. So both Ireland and NZ would be keen to go where ever the cash is highest, apart from pre RWC (etc) warm ups, that's why RUs do outside of window tests, to make money.

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    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

    No this is an outside of officially window extra.

    England hosts Aust on the same day.

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

      the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

      Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

      PR speak.

      I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

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      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

      the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

      Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

      PR speak.

      I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

      I think it's outside the International window, so don't think it was no home game for anyone. It's additional.

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      • M Machpants

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

        the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

        Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

        PR speak.

        I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

        No this is an outside of officially window extra. So both Ireland and NZ would be keen to go where ever the cash is highest, apart from pre RWC (etc) warm ups, that's why RUs do outside of window tests, to make money.

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        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

        the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

        Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

        PR speak.

        I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

        No this is an outside of officially window extra. So both Ireland and NZ would be keen to go where ever the cash is highest, apart from pre RWC (etc) warm ups, that's why RUs do outside of window tests, to make money.

        #booboo

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

          I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

          I see Bidwell is one of those who think Richie is indispensable.

          https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/02/18/all-blacks-suffer-razor-rebuked-nzr-boss-playing-risky-game-by-digging-in-over-mounga/

          "Any coach worth their salt should say the same, and most fans too. After all, you only had to watch Damian McKenzie playing at fly-half last year to appreciate Mo’unga’s worth."

          I had a quick look back various press releases and Bidwell appears an entrenched Mo'unga fan.
          I kinda think Mo'unga has played enough for us to assess his international worth, he was great under Razor in the Crusaders, less so in the ABs but other Crusaders don't seem to be a million dollars better under our current coaches than under the last team. Their gift of AB props may have improved but I don't see Crusaders newfound magic in the backs.

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          @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

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            @mariner4life just read the article. What atrocious waffle...

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

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              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

              Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

              Dumber than everyone that posts on the fern too.. and we have some absolute tards here

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

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                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

                Have you looked through his articles on the Roar? He's essentially Mo and Razor's publicist, anti NZR, and anti certain players often disliked by other Cantabs (DMac, Ioane bros).

                Him and Gregor Paul seem to have set themselves up as the edgelord anti NZ rugby journos.

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                  Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

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                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

                    I assume there is some healthy competition out there!

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                      No this is an outside of officially window extra.

                      England hosts Aust on the same day.

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                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                      No this is an outside of officially window extra.

                      England hosts Aust on the same day.

                      Also outside of the window, Ozzie and England need the money as much as is. the window is 3 games and we've done a fourth outside of window every year for ages. Normally the week before, sa even do some after to ensure their players get zero rest

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                      • M Machpants

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                        No this is an outside of officially window extra.

                        England hosts Aust on the same day.

                        Also outside of the window, Ozzie and England need the money as much as is. the window is 3 games and we've done a fourth outside of window every year for ages. Normally the week before, sa even do some after to ensure their players get zero rest

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                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                        No this is an outside of officially window extra.

                        England hosts Aust on the same day.

                        Also outside of the window, Ozzie and England need the money as much as is. the window is 3 games and we've done a fourth outside of window every year for ages. Normally the week before, sa even do some after to ensure their players get zero rest

                        Poms are obviously using Wallabies to have warm up before ABs, they will really want to win against us!!

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                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                          Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

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                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

                          TBF, and note I'm not defending him here, Ratpoo was always a leaguie, these other two are supposed to be rugby guys.

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                          • NepiaN Nepia

                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

                            TBF, and note I'm not defending him here, Ratpoo was always a leaguie, these other two are supposed to be rugby guys.

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                            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

                            TBF, and note I'm not defending him here, Ratpoo was always a leaguie, these other two are supposed to be rugby guys.

                            I thought he was a guy who hated sport and was forced to write under duress ?

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

                              TBF, and note I'm not defending him here, Ratpoo was always a leaguie, these other two are supposed to be rugby guys.

                              I thought he was a guy who hated sport and was forced to write under duress ?

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                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

                              TBF, and note I'm not defending him here, Ratpoo was always a leaguie, these other two are supposed to be rugby guys.

                              I thought he was a guy who hated sport and was forced to write under duress ?

                              as his rugby articles always seem to end up about league he probably really is a league guy. Is he actually fired?

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                              • SnowyS Snowy

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                IIRC the field isn't even regulation width...

                                It's not, which made our lock selection even more bloody ludicrous. Pat Tuipuloto and Kaino FFS. I know we were short of quality at the time, but lineout specialists should have been obvious, along with our best blindside playing at, well, blindside.

                                Lineouts are important enough, but with more of them and no chance to even take a quick throw because the ball is in the stands every time was just plain dumb.

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                                @Snowy said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                IIRC the field isn't even regulation width...

                                It's not, which made our lock selection even more bloody ludicrous. Pat Tuipuloto and Kaino FFS. I know we were short of quality at the time, but lineout specialists should have been obvious, along with our best blindside playing at, well, blindside.

                                Lineouts are important enough, but with more of them and no chance to even take a quick throw because the ball is in the stands every time was just plain dumb.

                                May come across as sour grapes but the ref that day was dubious too.

                                There was a maul try in the corner that was ropey as fuck.

                                I am so annoyed with the Allblacks/Hansen post 2015. Chicago and the Lions tour were a debacle.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                                  the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                                  Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

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                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                                  the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                                  Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

                                  Well I do
                                  And 62k other fans that watched that horrible game did as well.
                                  And I'll be there for the next one if possible.

                                  I don't understand why it upsets people so much to play just one test over here, especially when it sells out.

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                                  • D Darren

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                                    the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                                    Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

                                    Well I do
                                    And 62k other fans that watched that horrible game did as well.
                                    And I'll be there for the next one if possible.

                                    I don't understand why it upsets people so much to play just one test over here, especially when it sells out.

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                                    @Darren Putting aside the ground can't meet the requirements, I believe outside of tournaments that they should be held in the country of one of the participants.

                                    I genuinely don't see why Americans should get to see this fixture over Kiwis and the Irish.

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                                      This is how far NZR have fallen; calling this tour a Grand Slam
                                      https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18hWcQq5GV/

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                                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                                        This is how far NZR have fallen; calling this tour a Grand Slam
                                        https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18hWcQq5GV/

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                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        This is how far NZR have fallen; calling this tour a Grand Slam

                                        Is it not a Grand Slam? Ireland are happy to head away from home for $$$; that's on them isn't it?

                                        I mean, it's not great - but I can't get super upset about it

                                        Edit: Wikipedia has this

                                        In another context, a Grand Slam tour refers to a touring side – South Africa, Australia or New Zealand – which plays fixtures against all four home nations (England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales) during their tour. If the tourists win all of those matches, they are said to have achieved a Grand Slam. This has been done nine times, first by South Africa in 1912–13, and most recently by New Zealand in 2010.

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_(rugby_union)

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          This is how far NZR have fallen; calling this tour a Grand Slam
                                          https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18hWcQq5GV/

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                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          This is how far NZR have fallen; calling this tour a Grand Slam
                                          https://www.facebook.com/share/p/18hWcQq5GV/

                                          How? We can only play the teams that are there. All you’re missing is Italy and France.

                                          France go to NZ for a tour mid year so that’s fine not playing them. In terms of Scotland, we haven’t played Scotland since 2022 and they are a team heading in the right direction.

                                          I like this tour, unsure how this can make someone think it shouldn’t be referred to as a grand slam.

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