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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

    Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

    PR speak.

    Yep. Translated: A money making venture no fan wants.

    I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

    That alone shows the board isn't fit for purpose.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

    Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

    PR speak.

    Yep. Translated: A money making venture no fan wants.

    I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

    That alone shows the board isn't fit for purpose.

    Silverlake. "The prosecution rests"

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    • MN5M MN5

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Bovidae can't we play a team more people would like to watch us play?

      France would be the only other NH team because these are the other EOYT tests:

      Nov 8 - Scotland
      Nov 15 - England
      Nov 22 - Wales

      Pffft, speak for yourself, this one will be a test for the ages

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      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Bovidae can't we play a team more people would like to watch us play?

      France would be the only other NH team because these are the other EOYT tests:

      Nov 8 - Scotland
      Nov 15 - England
      Nov 22 - Wales

      Pffft, speak for yourself, this one will be a test for the ages

      fair enough, I can well imagine how watching Scotland in tests adds years to their fans...

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      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

        Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

        I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

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        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

        I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

        I see Bidwell is one of those who think Richie is indispensable.

        https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/02/18/all-blacks-suffer-razor-rebuked-nzr-boss-playing-risky-game-by-digging-in-over-mounga/

        "Any coach worth their salt should say the same, and most fans too. After all, you only had to watch Damian McKenzie playing at fly-half last year to appreciate Mo’unga’s worth."

        I had a quick look back various press releases and Bidwell appears an entrenched Mo'unga fan.
        I kinda think Mo'unga has played enough for us to assess his international worth, he was great under Razor in the Crusaders, less so in the ABs but other Crusaders don't seem to be a million dollars better under our current coaches than under the last team. Their gift of AB props may have improved but I don't see Crusaders newfound magic in the backs.

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        • canefanC canefan

          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

          the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

          the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

          Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

          IIRC the field isn't even regulation width...

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          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

          IIRC the field isn't even regulation width...

          It's not, which made our lock selection even more bloody ludicrous. Pat Tuipuloto and Kaino FFS. I know we were short of quality at the time, but lineout specialists should have been obvious, along with our best blindside playing at, well, blindside.

          Lineouts are important enough, but with more of them and no chance to even take a quick throw because the ball is in the stands every time was just plain dumb.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

              the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

              Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

              PR speak.

              I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

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              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

              the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

              Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

              PR speak.

              I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

              No this is an outside of officially window extra. So both Ireland and NZ would be keen to go where ever the cash is highest, apart from pre RWC (etc) warm ups, that's why RUs do outside of window tests, to make money.

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              • M Machpants

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

                PR speak.

                I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

                No this is an outside of officially window extra. So both Ireland and NZ would be keen to go where ever the cash is highest, apart from pre RWC (etc) warm ups, that's why RUs do outside of window tests, to make money.

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                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

                PR speak.

                I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

                No this is an outside of officially window extra. So both Ireland and NZ would be keen to go where ever the cash is highest, apart from pre RWC (etc) warm ups, that's why RUs do outside of window tests, to make money.

                I guess the RU will be highly motivated now that the full extent of the Silverlake mess has become apparent. They need all the cash they can get

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                • M Machpants

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                  the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                  Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

                  PR speak.

                  I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

                  No this is an outside of officially window extra. So both Ireland and NZ would be keen to go where ever the cash is highest, apart from pre RWC (etc) warm ups, that's why RUs do outside of window tests, to make money.

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                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                  No this is an outside of officially window extra.

                  England hosts Aust on the same day.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                    the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                    Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

                    PR speak.

                    I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

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                    #712

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                    the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                    Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

                    PR speak.

                    I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

                    I think it's outside the International window, so don't think it was no home game for anyone. It's additional.

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                    • M Machpants

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                      the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                      Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

                      PR speak.

                      I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

                      No this is an outside of officially window extra. So both Ireland and NZ would be keen to go where ever the cash is highest, apart from pre RWC (etc) warm ups, that's why RUs do outside of window tests, to make money.

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                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                      the highly anticipated clash fans have been waiting for since the teams met in the United States in 2016

                      Guessing that means I'm not a fan. I don't give a flying fuck about fixtures in the USA.

                      PR speak.

                      I assume this would have been an Irish home game. Obviously this is all about making money, but remember NZR wanted to take one of the French home tests to the USA, and that would have been much worse.

                      No this is an outside of officially window extra. So both Ireland and NZ would be keen to go where ever the cash is highest, apart from pre RWC (etc) warm ups, that's why RUs do outside of window tests, to make money.

                      #booboo

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                        I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

                        I see Bidwell is one of those who think Richie is indispensable.

                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/02/18/all-blacks-suffer-razor-rebuked-nzr-boss-playing-risky-game-by-digging-in-over-mounga/

                        "Any coach worth their salt should say the same, and most fans too. After all, you only had to watch Damian McKenzie playing at fly-half last year to appreciate Mo’unga’s worth."

                        I had a quick look back various press releases and Bidwell appears an entrenched Mo'unga fan.
                        I kinda think Mo'unga has played enough for us to assess his international worth, he was great under Razor in the Crusaders, less so in the ABs but other Crusaders don't seem to be a million dollars better under our current coaches than under the last team. Their gift of AB props may have improved but I don't see Crusaders newfound magic in the backs.

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                        @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

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                          @mariner4life just read the article. What atrocious waffle...

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

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                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

                            Dumber than everyone that posts on the fern too.. and we have some absolute tards here

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

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                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

                              Have you looked through his articles on the Roar? He's essentially Mo and Razor's publicist, anti NZR, and anti certain players often disliked by other Cantabs (DMac, Ioane bros).

                              Him and Gregor Paul seem to have set themselves up as the edgelord anti NZ rugby journos.

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                                Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @nostrildamus Bidwell might be the dumbest of all the blokes who get paid (i assume) to talk about rugby

                                  I assume there is some healthy competition out there!

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    No this is an outside of officially window extra.

                                    England hosts Aust on the same day.

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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    No this is an outside of officially window extra.

                                    England hosts Aust on the same day.

                                    Also outside of the window, Ozzie and England need the money as much as is. the window is 3 games and we've done a fourth outside of window every year for ages. Normally the week before, sa even do some after to ensure their players get zero rest

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      No this is an outside of officially window extra.

                                      England hosts Aust on the same day.

                                      Also outside of the window, Ozzie and England need the money as much as is. the window is 3 games and we've done a fourth outside of window every year for ages. Normally the week before, sa even do some after to ensure their players get zero rest

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                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      No this is an outside of officially window extra.

                                      England hosts Aust on the same day.

                                      Also outside of the window, Ozzie and England need the money as much as is. the window is 3 games and we've done a fourth outside of window every year for ages. Normally the week before, sa even do some after to ensure their players get zero rest

                                      Poms are obviously using Wallabies to have warm up before ABs, they will really want to win against us!!

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

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                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

                                        TBF, and note I'm not defending him here, Ratpoo was always a leaguie, these other two are supposed to be rugby guys.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

                                          TBF, and note I'm not defending him here, Ratpoo was always a leaguie, these other two are supposed to be rugby guys.

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                                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Ratpoo has lost his job. Available to the highest bidder now!

                                          TBF, and note I'm not defending him here, Ratpoo was always a leaguie, these other two are supposed to be rugby guys.

                                          I thought he was a guy who hated sport and was forced to write under duress ?

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