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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    @MN5 what do you mean "in this day and age?" Are you implying that in the modern game home advantage is not a factor anymore?

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @MN5 what do you mean "in this day and age?" Are you implying that in the modern game home advantage is not a factor anymore?

    You do know it's officially part of autumn series (well Ireland is marketing it as such) and from what I see as home union Irish rugby seems to be selling tickets to it already. Are grnd slams meant to be only held at Landsowne Rd, Murrayfield, , Twickenham and Cardiff Arms where they always were? Or do we move on?
    We haven't bloody won it yet anyway!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      And of course I'm not letting this go, nobody else has, and it's Friday, my motivation to work is low, so starting meaningless fights on the Fern is the best way to pass the time

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      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

      And of course I'm not letting this go, nobody else has, and it's Friday, my motivation to work is low, so starting meaningless fights on the Fern is the best way to pass the time

      i just watched/listened too a 40min you tube vid of a guy building a desk....so yeah, i feel ya

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        The original rugby Grand Slam is home and away, so there is that

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          i'll admit i always considered beating the them all at their home grounds as being part of a Grand Slam

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          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

          i'll admit i always considered beating the them all at their home grounds as being part of a Grand Slam

          Of course you never played tests in neutral venues before the RWC era. Times change

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            Jet
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            Takeaways after 2 rounds of Super.

            Im not impressed, from an Allblack perspective, with DMAC and Beaudy playing 15 instead of 10.

            Ardies vanity project in Moana is a complete waste of time. They have shipped 100 points in 2 games.

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            • J Jet

              Takeaways after 2 rounds of Super.

              Im not impressed, from an Allblack perspective, with DMAC and Beaudy playing 15 instead of 10.

              Ardies vanity project in Moana is a complete waste of time. They have shipped 100 points in 2 games.

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              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

              Im not impressed, from an Allblack perspective, with DMAC and Beaudy playing 15 instead of 10.

              It is a bit weird isn't it?

              Much as though the thought of David Havili at 10 filled me with horror, I did like the way Robertson and the Crusaders worked together to see how he went at 10 at SR level.

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              • D DaGrubster

                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Darren Putting aside the ground can't meet the requirements, I believe outside of tournaments that they should be held in the country of one of the participants.

                I genuinely don't see why Americans should get to see this fixture over Kiwis and the Irish.

                What annoys me is the "milking" of a brand thats in danger of becoming irrelevant.

                It's all well and good selling out to Ineos, Altrad and playing games in the U.S if you are the "Harlem Globetrotters" of your sport. But we are now losing regularly to France, Ireland and South Africa and even Argentina and still strutting around like we are the cock of the walk.

                We could do with winning the odd tournament to justify our lofty sense of self worth these days.

                The modern day iteration of the Allblacks are all fur coat and no knickers.

                Winning is all that matters and the rest is superfluous.

                The first Chicago expedition was the start of the current malaise.

                I think it is more commercial realities where the AB brand is the growth engine for NZR.

                Yes, you are correct - the continued success/Brand of ABs/NZR requires success. Ideally at a world cup level.

                I dont think it is becoming irrelevant, its amazing how quickly the aura is restored after a period of non domination of the sport - which we are in now. Besting the boks at home would help of course and is a must for a number of reasons

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                @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                Yes, you are correct - the continued success/Brand of ABs/NZR requires success. Ideally at a world cup level.

                Just a thought. The All Blacks built the brand off 92 years of dour amateurism, a bare 70% winning record (I'll check exact numbers later), and being worse than South Africa, compounded by a 24 year gap between World Cups.

                A game or two per year in neutral territory is not destroying the brand.

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                • J Jet

                  Takeaways after 2 rounds of Super.

                  Im not impressed, from an Allblack perspective, with DMAC and Beaudy playing 15 instead of 10.

                  Ardies vanity project in Moana is a complete waste of time. They have shipped 100 points in 2 games.

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                  Nepia
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                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Takeaways after 2 rounds of Super.

                  Im not impressed, from an Allblack perspective, with DMAC and Beaudy playing 15 instead of 10.

                  Ardies vanity project in Moana is a complete waste of time. They have shipped 100 points in 2 games.

                  Could be good for him to face more adversity than usual and have to get into the muck more trying to stop teams from running away from MP - they can still turn it on in attack. He was average in black last year so this change might get him back to his top form.

                  Probably doesn't matter too much that DMac is playing 15 while the regular 15s are out, he's still leading the team.

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                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                      And of course I'm not letting this go, nobody else has, and it's Friday, my motivation to work is low, so starting meaningless fights on the Fern is the best way to pass the time

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                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

                      And of course I'm not letting this go, nobody else has, and it's Friday, my motivation to work is low, so starting meaningless fights on the Fern is the best way to pass the time

                      Not sure if this has been mentioned but a 6 nations grand slam includes winning games at home. Just saying.

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                      • SnowyS Snowy

                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

                        And of course I'm not letting this go, nobody else has, and it's Friday, my motivation to work is low, so starting meaningless fights on the Fern is the best way to pass the time

                        Not sure if this has been mentioned but a 6 nations grand slam includes winning games at home. Just saying.

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                        @Snowy said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

                        And of course I'm not letting this go, nobody else has, and it's Friday, my motivation to work is low, so starting meaningless fights on the Fern is the best way to pass the time

                        Not sure if this has been mentioned but a 6 nations grand slam includes winning games at home. Just saying.

                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                        The original rugby Grand Slam is home and away, so there is that

                        Yup

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                          Fabian Holland, if fit, is a near certainty to be added to the AB squad.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            Fabian Holland, if fit, is a near certainty to be added to the AB squad.

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                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Fabian Holland, if fit, is a near certainty to be added to the AB squad.

                            Barrett, Vaa'i, Lord, Tuipulotu, Holland (and an injured Darry) isn't a bad crop of options.

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                            • M Mr Fish

                              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Fabian Holland, if fit, is a near certainty to be added to the AB squad.

                              Barrett, Vaa'i, Lord, Tuipulotu, Holland (and an injured Darry) isn't a bad crop of options.

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                              @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Fabian Holland, if fit, is a near certainty to be added to the AB squad.

                              Barrett, Vaa'i, Lord, Tuipulotu, Holland (and an injured Darry) isn't a bad crop of options.

                              The captain would be lucky to make the bench in that crop currently...

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                                The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.

                                70 points plus per game.

                                Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.

                                Screenshot 2025-02-22 at 14.00.21.png

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                                • J Jet

                                  The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.

                                  70 points plus per game.

                                  Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.

                                  Screenshot 2025-02-22 at 14.00.21.png

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                                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.

                                  70 points plus per game.

                                  Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.

                                  Screenshot 2025-02-22 at 14.00.21.png

                                  As we saw last year, those performing in SR are among the best players in TR.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.

                                    70 points plus per game.

                                    Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.

                                    Screenshot 2025-02-22 at 14.00.21.png

                                    As we saw last year, those performing in SR are among the best players in TR.

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.

                                    70 points plus per game.

                                    Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.

                                    Screenshot 2025-02-22 at 14.00.21.png

                                    As we saw last year, those performing in SR are among the best players in TR.

                                    And a good lot of them didnt get picked :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                    • J Jet

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.

                                      70 points plus per game.

                                      Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.

                                      Screenshot 2025-02-22 at 14.00.21.png

                                      As we saw last year, those performing in SR are among the best players in TR.

                                      And a good lot of them didnt get picked :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.

                                      70 points plus per game.

                                      Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.

                                      Screenshot 2025-02-22 at 14.00.21.png

                                      As we saw last year, those performing in SR are among the best players in TR.

                                      And a good lot of them didnt get picked :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                                      Fair point, but also counter to your fear of super rugby not preparing us...

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                                        I wonder if the season progresses and we see a whole lot of young lads out perform long-time ABs whether Robertson will be brave and end some careers, or whether he will give them another season pushing the form is temporary, class is permenant they are proven performers blah blah.

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                                        • J Jet

                                          The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.

                                          70 points plus per game.

                                          Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.

                                          Screenshot 2025-02-22 at 14.00.21.png

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                                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.

                                          70 points plus per game.

                                          Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.

                                          Screenshot 2025-02-22 at 14.00.21.png

                                          at least the Blues are doing their bit to keep the points down.

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