All Blacks 2025
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Darren Putting aside the ground can't meet the requirements, I believe outside of tournaments that they should be held in the country of one of the participants.
I genuinely don't see why Americans should get to see this fixture over Kiwis and the Irish.
What annoys me is the "milking" of a brand thats in danger of becoming irrelevant.
It's all well and good selling out to Ineos, Altrad and playing games in the U.S if you are the "Harlem Globetrotters" of your sport. But we are now losing regularly to France, Ireland and South Africa and even Argentina and still strutting around like we are the cock of the walk.
We could do with winning the odd tournament to justify our lofty sense of self worth these days.
The modern day iteration of the Allblacks are all fur coat and no knickers.
Winning is all that matters and the rest is superfluous.
The first Chicago expedition was the start of the current malaise.
I think it is more commercial realities where the AB brand is the growth engine for NZR.
Yes, you are correct - the continued success/Brand of ABs/NZR requires success. Ideally at a world cup level.
I dont think it is becoming irrelevant, its amazing how quickly the aura is restored after a period of non domination of the sport - which we are in now. Besting the boks at home would help of course and is a must for a number of reasons
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:
Yes, you are correct - the continued success/Brand of ABs/NZR requires success. Ideally at a world cup level.
Just a thought. The All Blacks built the brand off 92 years of dour amateurism, a bare 70% winning record (I'll check exact numbers later), and being worse than South Africa, compounded by a 24 year gap between World Cups.
A game or two per year in neutral territory is not destroying the brand.
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Takeaways after 2 rounds of Super.
Im not impressed, from an Allblack perspective, with DMAC and Beaudy playing 15 instead of 10.
Ardies vanity project in Moana is a complete waste of time. They have shipped 100 points in 2 games.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
Takeaways after 2 rounds of Super.
Im not impressed, from an Allblack perspective, with DMAC and Beaudy playing 15 instead of 10.
Ardies vanity project in Moana is a complete waste of time. They have shipped 100 points in 2 games.
Could be good for him to face more adversity than usual and have to get into the muck more trying to stop teams from running away from MP - they can still turn it on in attack. He was average in black last year so this change might get him back to his top form.
Probably doesn't matter too much that DMac is playing 15 while the regular 15s are out, he's still leading the team.
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And of course I'm not letting this go, nobody else has, and it's Friday, my motivation to work is low, so starting meaningless fights on the Fern is the best way to pass the time
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
And of course I'm not letting this go, nobody else has, and it's Friday, my motivation to work is low, so starting meaningless fights on the Fern is the best way to pass the time
Not sure if this has been mentioned but a 6 nations grand slam includes winning games at home. Just saying.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
And of course I'm not letting this go, nobody else has, and it's Friday, my motivation to work is low, so starting meaningless fights on the Fern is the best way to pass the time
Not sure if this has been mentioned but a 6 nations grand slam includes winning games at home. Just saying.
@Snowy said in All Blacks 2025:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
And of course I'm not letting this go, nobody else has, and it's Friday, my motivation to work is low, so starting meaningless fights on the Fern is the best way to pass the time
Not sure if this has been mentioned but a 6 nations grand slam includes winning games at home. Just saying.
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:
The original rugby Grand Slam is home and away, so there is that
Yup
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Fabian Holland, if fit, is a near certainty to be added to the AB squad.
Barrett, Vaa'i, Lord, Tuipulotu, Holland (and an injured Darry) isn't a bad crop of options.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Fabian Holland, if fit, is a near certainty to be added to the AB squad.
Barrett, Vaa'i, Lord, Tuipulotu, Holland (and an injured Darry) isn't a bad crop of options.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Fabian Holland, if fit, is a near certainty to be added to the AB squad.
Barrett, Vaa'i, Lord, Tuipulotu, Holland (and an injured Darry) isn't a bad crop of options.
The captain would be lucky to make the bench in that crop currently...
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The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.
70 points plus per game.
Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.
70 points plus per game.
Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.
As we saw last year, those performing in SR are among the best players in TR.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.
70 points plus per game.
Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.
As we saw last year, those performing in SR are among the best players in TR.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.
70 points plus per game.
Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.
As we saw last year, those performing in SR are among the best players in TR.
And a good lot of them didnt get picked :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.
70 points plus per game.
Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.
As we saw last year, those performing in SR are among the best players in TR.
And a good lot of them didnt get picked :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.
70 points plus per game.
Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.
As we saw last year, those performing in SR are among the best players in TR.
And a good lot of them didnt get picked :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:
Fair point, but also counter to your fear of super rugby not preparing us...
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I wonder if the season progresses and we see a whole lot of young lads out perform long-time ABs whether Robertson will be brave and end some careers, or whether he will give them another season pushing the form is temporary, class is permenant they are proven performers blah blah.
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The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.
70 points plus per game.
Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
The scorelines in Super Rugby are absolutely ridiculous.
70 points plus per game.
Not sure how well this serves us or the Aussies in preparing for test footy.
at least the Blues are doing their bit to keep the points down.
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I wonder if the season progresses and we see a whole lot of young lads out perform long-time ABs whether Robertson will be brave and end some careers, or whether he will give them another season pushing the form is temporary, class is permenant they are proven performers blah blah.
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:
I wonder if the season progresses and we see a whole lot of young lads out perform long-time ABs whether Robertson will be brave and end some careers, or whether he will give them another season pushing the form is temporary, class is permenant they are proven performers blah blah.
No.
Havili and Blackadder in particular need all the opportunity and time to get back into form. I don't want any young pretenders usurping them.
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I'd like to see a few changes in the AB squad but I fear it won't happen as experience seems to be Robertson's main criteria for his selections. New faces I'd like to see : Tavatavanawai, Tangitau, Tupaea (not really a new face but new in Robertson's squad) and Parker. However, let's see if these ones can keep on being in great form.
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Can confirm Razor was at Twickenham for the Six Nations so doing his research.
I was sat right in front of the box so tried to get Raeburn Shield cards to him
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Wonder if we could see a reshuffle of the coaching setup, if Penney gets the flick or are they going to get someone offshore, inhouse or one of the All Black assistants like Hanson or Ellison?
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
Wonder if we could see a reshuffle of the coaching setup, if Penney gets the flick or are they going to get someone offshore, inhouse or one of the All Black assistants like Hanson or Ellison?
If Penney is moved on, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if it was to the ABs.
