All Blacks 2025
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
So who wears 13 this year since Reiko Ioane is showing absolutely fuck all?
He would probably be the top scoring Allblack of all time if he had of just stayed on the wing.
The move to 13 has been quite underwhelming.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
So who wears 13 this year since Reiko Ioane is showing absolutely fuck all?
He would probably be the top scoring Allblack of all time if he had of just stayed on the wing.
The move to 13 has been quite underwhelming.
The move has been disappointing. I suspect his spot in the ABs is safe for this season. There is nobody else screaming pick me.
As for the future, I reckon Wrampling is one to watch. If he can overcome his injuries he looks like he has all the tools.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Perofeta is a great example of where selection has gone wrong in recent year. Pick a bloke, give him 5 minutes at the fag-end of a Test and judge him on that.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Perofeta is a great example of where selection has gone wrong in recent year. Pick a bloke, give him 5 minutes at the fag-end of a Test and judge him on that.
The counter argument would be that Perofeta wouldn’t be in the All Blacks if we had players of the level we desire
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
So who wears 13 this year since Reiko Ioane is showing absolutely fuck all?
He would probably be the top scoring Allblack of all time if he had of just stayed on the wing.
The move to 13 has been quite underwhelming.
The move has been disappointing. I suspect his spot in the ABs is safe for this season. There is nobody else screaming pick me.
As for the future, I reckon Wrampling is one to watch. If he can overcome his injuries he looks like he has all the tools.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
So who wears 13 this year since Reiko Ioane is showing absolutely fuck all?
He would probably be the top scoring Allblack of all time if he had of just stayed on the wing.
The move to 13 has been quite underwhelming.
The move has been disappointing. I suspect his spot in the ABs is safe for this season. There is nobody else screaming pick me.
As for the future, I reckon Wrampling is one to watch. If he can overcome his injuries he looks like he has all the tools.
Wrampling is a gun but he's probably going to continue struggle for minutes with ALB, Tupaea and Rona all ahead of him in the pecking order in the midfield (and Mataele bizarrely selected ahead of him on the wing earlier in the season).
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Perofeta is a great example of where selection has gone wrong in recent year. Pick a bloke, give him 5 minutes at the fag-end of a Test and judge him on that.
The counter argument would be that Perofeta wouldn’t be in the All Blacks if we had players of the level we desire
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Perofeta is a great example of where selection has gone wrong in recent year. Pick a bloke, give him 5 minutes at the fag-end of a Test and judge him on that.
The counter argument would be that Perofeta wouldn’t be in the All Blacks if we had players of the level we desire
We can't simply wish up the players of the level we desire, though. We have to select the best ones and stick with developing the ones with potential (think Nonu).
We haven't done that for quite some time. Where would Sititi and Va'ii be if it weren't for forced injury selections?
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This thread is going to look funny when the same guys play the first test
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Perofeta is a great example of where selection has gone wrong in recent year. Pick a bloke, give him 5 minutes at the fag-end of a Test and judge him on that.
The counter argument would be that Perofeta wouldn’t be in the All Blacks if we had players of the level we desire
We can't simply wish up the players of the level we desire, though. We have to select the best ones and stick with developing the ones with potential (think Nonu).
We haven't done that for quite some time. Where would Sititi and Va'ii be if it weren't for forced injury selections?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Perofeta is a great example of where selection has gone wrong in recent year. Pick a bloke, give him 5 minutes at the fag-end of a Test and judge him on that.
The counter argument would be that Perofeta wouldn’t be in the All Blacks if we had players of the level we desire
We can't simply wish up the players of the level we desire, though. We have to select the best ones and stick with developing the ones with potential (think Nonu).
We haven't done that for quite some time. Where would Sititi and Va'ii be if it weren't for forced injury selections?
Holding tackle bags with Plummer, Love and Proctor
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Perofeta is a great example of where selection has gone wrong in recent year. Pick a bloke, give him 5 minutes at the fag-end of a Test and judge him on that.
The counter argument would be that Perofeta wouldn’t be in the All Blacks if we had players of the level we desire
We can't simply wish up the players of the level we desire, though. We have to select the best ones and stick with developing the ones with potential (think Nonu).
We haven't done that for quite some time. Where would Sititi and Va'ii be if it weren't for forced injury selections?
Holding tackle bags with Plummer, Love and Proctor
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@frugby said in All Blacks 2025:
Would you call 28 young? I like Perofeta, but he isn’t the solution either.
I'm not sure we've ever had the chance to find out.
This is this dumb circular argument. If you think Perofeta could be the answer at 10 for the ABs, have I got things to sell to you.
Perofeta is a great example of where selection has gone wrong in recent year. Pick a bloke, give him 5 minutes at the fag-end of a Test and judge him on that.
The counter argument would be that Perofeta wouldn’t be in the All Blacks if we had players of the level we desire
We can't simply wish up the players of the level we desire, though. We have to select the best ones and stick with developing the ones with potential (think Nonu).
We haven't done that for quite some time. Where would Sititi and Va'ii be if it weren't for forced injury selections?
Holding tackle bags with Plummer, Love and Proctor
Vaa'i is a good example of spotting a talent, giving him game-time, accepting a few bad performances and the benefits of coaching continuity.
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Would love to see Caleb Tangitau and Leroy Carter being called up. I think we need more raw speed to match Bok and French wings.
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Exactly!!! I feel like Rees and Telea just don’t have raw speed and x- factor for test level. I wish selectors would understand when it is time to move on.
@DMX said in All Blacks 2025:
Exactly!!! I feel like Rees and Telea just don’t have raw speed and x- factor for test level. I wish selectors would understand when it is time to move on.
At least Telea is still elusive, in a Corey Jane sort of way. His game was never about all out speed
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@DMX said in All Blacks 2025:
Exactly!!! I feel like Rees and Telea just don’t have raw speed and x- factor for test level. I wish selectors would understand when it is time to move on.
At least Telea is still elusive, in a Corey Jane sort of way. His game was never about all out speed
@canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.
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@canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.
Oh yeah because converting a wing into a centre has worked well for us. No thank you. How about we give our specialists a go for once.
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@canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.
He probably has more of the requisite skills than Rieko....
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@DMX said in All Blacks 2025:
Exactly!!! I feel like Rees and Telea just don’t have raw speed and x- factor for test level. I wish selectors would understand when it is time to move on.
At least Telea is still elusive, in a Corey Jane sort of way. His game was never about all out speed
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@DMX said in All Blacks 2025:
Exactly!!! I feel like Rees and Telea just don’t have raw speed and x- factor for test level. I wish selectors would understand when it is time to move on.
At least Telea is still elusive, in a Corey Jane sort of way. His game was never about all out speed
Yes game never about all out speed which is why I don’t want him there! Give me speed merchants!! He works hard but sometimes he is trying too hard to get his hands on the ball, like playing half back then throwing a crap pass!!
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@nostrildamus @Canes4life I actually agree with you both equally.
Whilst I would love to see it as a leftfield option I also think a good specialist needs to be there too.
Sitting on this fence is hurting my arse.....
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.
Oh yeah because converting a wing into a centre has worked well for us. No thank you. How about we give our specialists a go for once.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.
Oh yeah because converting a wing into a centre has worked well for us. No thank you. How about we give our specialists a go for once.
- I know this is the AB thread but I am not saying he should be an AB 12/13.
- Tana moved to centre, seemed to do ok.
- Specialists. Don't have many quality ones that aren't injured.
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For Telea to be tried at centre, it would need to be something the Blues would try, at this stage of the comp and where they are now it is akin to Havilli being tried out as a 10. The Telea from the Landers is a midfielder isn't he?
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Personally I think Telea would be horrible in the midfield, unless you want a midfield which whenever they get the ball... stops, cuts inside, and runs completely as an individual.
He's very very evasive and hard to put down, which are great qualities - but a wing or nothing.
